2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Schippke wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 15:50
It’s somewhat fascinating to see how we can go into a weekend as potential favourites, with a track that is meant to suit the car… and end up being 4th fastest once more.
Leclerc just said that on an interview.

Reality is that Mclaren won on merit this year(I mean, on pace, by being the fastest car overall), while Ferrari won due to VSCs and strategies and Antonelli´s misfortunes...

The engine shouldn´t have been a huge problem this time around (see the increase in performance of Audi here) but they got outraced by all 3 competitors. The car is good but doesn´t look like the best chassis as some believe

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We lost that race in the qualifying. Shouldn't have ran early when we already had good banker laps! How dumb canthey get?!

I don't even want to talk about the race.
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Artur Craft wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:33
Schippke wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 15:50
It’s somewhat fascinating to see how we can go into a weekend as potential favourites, with a track that is meant to suit the car… and end up being 4th fastest once more.
Leclerc just said that on an interview.

Reality is that Mclaren won on merit this year(I mean, on pace, by being the fastest car overall), while Ferrari won due to VSCs and strategies and Antonelli´s misfortunes...

The engine shouldn´t have been a huge problem this time around (see the increase in performance of Audi here) but they got outraced by all 3 competitors. The car is good but doesn´t look like the best chassis as some believe
The problem is that when Ferrari could claim (and probably really had) the title of the best chassis, they could not utilize it because Mercedes was substantially ahead of everyone else deployment-wise. Then Ferrari catches up a bit, Mercedes brings a big upgrade package and pretty much nullifies Ferrari's work just because they still maintain a PU advantage. On the background of all of this, McLaren is slowly learning more about the PU while also working towards big upgrades.

It's almost like a twisted game of irony for Ferrari. When they have something good going on for them against a rival, they can't use it to its best potential. And when they finally get on top of that rival, another just sweeps in and passes them both.

In all fairness, you could blame it on luck and missfortune all you want, but at the end of the day, they just need to do a better job. It shouldn't be acceptable for RBPT to have a better PU than Ferrari on their first try as a full-on manufacturer. They just need to be better. If you have the best PU and the best chassis, no matter how much bad luck you have, it won't matter anymore.
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We are very lucky to be even ahead of McLaren in the championship. We are failing upwards!
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Raleigh wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 16:51
Ferrari has no real strategy, just going for the aggressive early pitstops at every chance with no consideration how that will work out track.
They are still doing it because it worked out on Barcelona

when is the next ADUO, Zandvoort, Monza ?

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Emag wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:40
It shouldn't be acceptable for RBPT to have a better PU than Ferrari on their first try as a full-on manufacturer. They just need to be better. If you have the best PU and the best chassis, no matter how much bad luck you have, it won't matter anymore.
Being fair to Ferrari. They did do a good job with the engine as well. Mercedes´ is maybe outside the rules and RBPT just humiliated everybody : Audi, Honda and Ferrari

I still struggle to believe how Red Bull were able to pull this off. VW and Stellantis are mega car manufacturers and have several decades of know-how on this. How can a few engineers working in Milton Keynes outsmart these big companies ?

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Nonsense decisions again, they should have risked keeping at least one of them out, probably both.
By the way was Leclerc notified about Hamilton's 5s penalty, or was he betrayed again?
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Well that was truly horrendous. Somebody said they lost in quali, and there’s truth to that, but also:
(1) starts were bad (ok Leclerc on bad side of grid but wasn’t also max?)
(2) strategy all over the place - surely leave Lewis out at the end and try to hold 2nd?
(3) pace didn’t seem that great. Ok-ish but nowhere near Norris on a track that should have suited the car

So again, this season throws up something that inverts expectations. Let’s just hope the engine meet expectations and it lifts the global performance of the car (eg fewer compromises on wing level etc). Just messy.

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Incorrect decision to be 1st out in Q3, Hamilton's penalty and then Verstappen being ahead is what ruined it for us. The early 1st pit stop was purely to get to get ahead of Verstappen in my opinion, unfortunately Hamilton got caught out by Verstappen and that gamble hurt us from that point on.

Leclerc was slow and fast at certain points during the race. Certain we would have seen a different race from him if his start was better.

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26 Jul 2026, 18:20
Incorrect decision to be 1st out in Q3, Hamilton's penalty and then Verstappen being ahead is what ruined it for us. The early 1st pit stop was purely to get to get ahead of Verstappen in my opinion, unfortunately Hamilton got caught out by Verstappen and that gamble hurt us from that point on.

Leclerc was slow and fast at certain points during the race. Certain we would have seen a different race from him if his start was better.
The undercut on VER was the right choice and it worked, Hamilton just got caught napping on the 2nd lap. If he had held that position he would have finished where Max finished.

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Artur Craft wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:48
Emag wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:40
It shouldn't be acceptable for RBPT to have a better PU than Ferrari on their first try as a full-on manufacturer. They just need to be better. If you have the best PU and the best chassis, no matter how much bad luck you have, it won't matter anymore.
Being fair to Ferrari. They did do a good job with the engine as well. Mercedes´ is maybe outside the rules and RBPT just humiliated everybody : Audi, Honda and Ferrari

I still struggle to believe how Red Bull were able to pull this off. VW and Stellantis are mega car manufacturers and have several decades of know-how on this. How can a few engineers working in Milton Keynes outsmart these big companies ?
Ferrari tried to be clever and play the Aduo game.
They made decisions that would give them advantages on other areas while sapping engine power, then they could rely on ADUO to catch up.
In terms of winning a championship this plan has not worked i would say.

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Badger wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 18:36
CRazyLemon wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 18:20
Incorrect decision to be 1st out in Q3, Hamilton's penalty and then Verstappen being ahead is what ruined it for us. The early 1st pit stop was purely to get to get ahead of Verstappen in my opinion, unfortunately Hamilton got caught out by Verstappen and that gamble hurt us from that point on.

Leclerc was slow and fast at certain points during the race. Certain we would have seen a different race from him if his start was better.
The undercut on VER was the right choice and it worked, Hamilton just got caught napping on the 2nd lap. If he had held that position he would have finished where Max finished.
The pace on the second stint was so bad, I don’t think he would have stayed ahead of max for long. In fact, The hard tyre in general was bad for them and the soft wasn’t good enough to balance that out,

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Artur Craft wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:48
Emag wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:40
It shouldn't be acceptable for RBPT to have a better PU than Ferrari on their first try as a full-on manufacturer. They just need to be better. If you have the best PU and the best chassis, no matter how much bad luck you have, it won't matter anymore.
Being fair to Ferrari. They did do a good job with the engine as well. Mercedes´ is maybe outside the rules and RBPT just humiliated everybody : Audi, Honda and Ferrari

I still struggle to believe how Red Bull were able to pull this off. VW and Stellantis are mega car manufacturers and have several decades of know-how on this. How can a few engineers working in Milton Keynes outsmart these big companies ?
Because of Ford. Ford exist many years in F1 and Automobiles and has decades of experience. Remember that the whole thing is a collaboration. Red Bull did not do that alone.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 20:30
Because of Ford. Ford exist many years in F1 and Automobiles and has decades of experience. Remember that the whole thing is a collaboration. Red Bull did not do that alone.
I heard people say that Ford had very little to do with it and mostly paid to have it´s brand attached to it. I heard that the engine was, around, 90% done by RB and Ford contributed to around 10%. Don´t blame me if this sounds stupid or nonsensical, I just heard it that way

From Leclerc´s interview again, he seemed very unsettled about Ferrari´s relatively poor pace here while exceeding expectations on Spa and Silverstone. I doubt Hamilton feels any different. Not nice when you don´t know what to expect from your machinery

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 20:30
Artur Craft wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:48
Emag wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 17:40
It shouldn't be acceptable for RBPT to have a better PU than Ferrari on their first try as a full-on manufacturer. They just need to be better. If you have the best PU and the best chassis, no matter how much bad luck you have, it won't matter anymore.
Being fair to Ferrari. They did do a good job with the engine as well. Mercedes´ is maybe outside the rules and RBPT just humiliated everybody : Audi, Honda and Ferrari

I still struggle to believe how Red Bull were able to pull this off. VW and Stellantis are mega car manufacturers and have several decades of know-how on this. How can a few engineers working in Milton Keynes outsmart these big companies ?
Because of Ford. Ford exist many years in F1 and Automobiles and has decades of experience. Remember that the whole thing is a collaboration. Red Bull did not do that alone.
Ford know nothing about modern F1 engines.

They took all the good people from Honda. This is the reason Aston were going crazy because the Honda they ended up with already had the good bits stripped.