USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

[bhall]

Or I'll eat a Nomex suit.

I'll hold you to it.

[madtown77]

Or I'll eat a Nomex suit.

I'll even buy one as a christmas gift just to see that.

[Conceptual]

Too true to both above.

Well, it's SpeedTV, not exactly THE source for F1 information. Love how they tried to make it look like an off-the-cuff visit.

If Cosworth doesn't prove to be a good engine, having the driver make engine sounds might actually make the car go faster.

Hell, I'd be happy for a few more parodies of racing referencing "Formula UHHHH"

Doesn't NASCAR actually own SpeedTV?

[Conceptual]

As I said earlier, that video from the office and workshop was pure comedy with the cheap Jim Clark poster on the wall, shelves sitting on the floor, FIA software on screen and a CNC doing nothing but moving around a piece of Aluminium, which quite clearly did not have a place on an F1 car.

Hey xpensive, that CNC was performing surface finishing, typically around 0.001"-0.002" per pass, so yeah, its pretty slow. That and they turned the coolant flow off for the cameras so they have to slow it down so they don't burn up the tooling and the part.

As for not having a place on a race car, looks an awful lot like a suspension upright without all the little carbon pieces around it for controlling brake cooling airflow.

Surface finishing, eh? On an aluminium upright? Yeah right, for a Nascar vehicle perhaps.

I have actually tried to be corteous about this sad xcuse for an F1 team, but their effort has been pathetic from day one and there's not a chance in hell they ever gonna make the grid. Or I'll eat a Nomex suit.

When you listen to Windsor's ramblings, it's pretty obvious he simply has no clue as to what he's talking about.
"From start in an F1 car-design, you decide if you are going for maximum downforce or top-speed." Prat.

Those are pretty strong facts that you are making up. Just because Windsor and Anderson have not seen fit to include you into their meetings, does not mean that you know a single, solitary thing about what is really happening at USF1.

Your conjecture smells like crap. As usual.

[xpensive]

All this flag-waving and self-sufficient American national-pride is so cute, in particular when it's a little...hurt?

[Conceptual]

All this flag-waving and self-sufficient American national-pride is so cute, in particular when it's a little...hurt?

It is funny how you defend your bullshit opinion stating as fact by pointing to nationalism.

If you have ever learned anything about me, it is that I do not have any favorites in F1. I am just a fan of facts, something that you seem to think that your opinion is when you make such uninformed statements with ZERO evidence to back it up.

What a waste of board space your posts are...

[xpensive]

Come now, even as a non-engineer, you must be able to tell when something is credible, red white and blue or not?

Speaking of waste of F1T space, how many times have you officially declared your departure from here now, three or four?

[madtown77]

Come now, even as a non-engineer, you must be able to tell when something is credible, red white and blue or not?

Especially as an engineer, you must know that stating your own opinion as fact without any evidence to back it up is what gets most engineers fired.

Or maybe that's the problem.

[Conceptual]

[...]
In regards to USF1, I have a wait and see stance. If they show, great, if not, then whatever. If you want to state all of this stuff after they no-show in Bahrain, be my guest, but until then, keep your conjecture to "I think/feel/believe" type statements, because anything else is utter crap, simply due to the lack of solid information.

[xpensive]

If I read you right concept, if I fail to use the xpression "I think", you feel compelled to bring the discussion to the gutter?
Interesting that.

I guess I think you are a S****ck then, fair enough?

[jon-mullen]

So I signed up for my CS221 class (Intro to Programming for Engrs) thinking it would be C++ but instead this is the first semester they've switched to Python. Although Python syntax is idiotically simple, it does let you take a lot of liberties with lists and object types and whatever else that would be a headache in C++. It's also great for quick scripts for boring and repetitive calculations.

I was thinking the other day, boring and repetitive? Well, that's like the USF1 thread! So I decided to save all of us a lot of trouble and write a script to automate the thread until there's actually something to talk about. I still need to write a few classes for it, but here's my main() so far:

# note that Python relies on line breaks and
# indentation to parse syntax instead of semicolons
# and curly braces

NULL = 0

def main():

     while usf1.car == NULL and days_till_bahrain != 0:

          usf1.windsor.gaffe()

          f1.insiders.doubt(usf1)

          new_news = usf1.get_news()

          if new_news == NULL:
               forum.doubt(usf1)
          elif new_news > 0:
               forum.americans.rattle_saber(usf1)
          elif new_news < 0:
               mockery = forum.euros.mock(usf1)

          if mockery > forum.americans.tolerance:
               forum.americans.backlash()
          else:
               forum.americans.laugh()

          days_till_bahrain -= 1

main()

We can all rest easy now.

[WhiteBlue]

cool app

[Conceptual]

If I read you right concept, if I fail to use the xpression "I think", you feel compelled to bring the discussion to the gutter?
Interesting that.

I guess I think you are a S****ck then, fair enough?

You can think what you want, and I can care less...

It is when people, especially newbies, come here looking for Technical information, and all they have available is your opinion stated as fact to go by.

If you believe that it is right to teach people that your opinion is the truth, I would label you a neo-cheater, and dismiss you as trash.

At least give the uninformed the opportunity to sort through the information here without the misrepresentations that you are posting.

If they end up agreeing with you, that is fine (I actually agree with your opinions most of the time), but that doesn't make them fact.

As a technical forum, I believe that the seperation of fact and opinion is necessary, especially for those seeking enlightenment.

Please, don't confuse those that take an engineers' word as fact by not preceeding it with with proof or a statement of opinion.

I, for one, would find F1T a much better place to visit if such things were mandatory.

[madtown77]

Personally I just don't understand all the hostility here. I'm all for a little self deprecating joke here and there, but people just seem to want USF1 (or Peter Windsor...or whatever) to fail. That does the sport no good. As an earlier post mentioned, F1 is starting to really suffer because the money spent has outgrown the earnings potential of the sport (and Bernie's greed).

As for a lack of proof that a car is being built, there is no proof that a car isn't being built either. I'm not really saying that 'no news is good news', buti f it were me, I would be spending my time with a small staff actually working on the car. A few weeks before launch, I would start to ramp up the PR campaign and bring on more of the marketing people, espeially if I had already secured the funds, as they have iterated. Lets face it, the US media will care nothing of a team in the middle of the F1 offseason, even if they are from the states. But when we get closer to testing days, I think that will start to change.

I agree that if they make it great, if not then its just another missed oportunity in a long line of them for F1. There are plenty of companies, far larger than USF1, that are even worse at having/maintaining a website.

[madtown77]

USF1 update: The issue of who will drive for USF1 in 2010 remains cloaked in secrecy.

But RacinToday.com has learned that the rate of activity has picked up noticeably in the team’s Huntersville, N.C. facility. New hires have gone to work on building the parts and pieces of the team’s first car, expected to break cover in late January or early February. Dan Passe, a public relations representative with the team, says USF1 has yet to reach full capacity and continues with its hiring process as employment contracts come to an end elsewhere, particularly after layoffs by some F1 teams such as Toyota.

As for the team’s web site, it remains under construction. Like the car, we’re told, the goal is to produce state-of-the-art technology and there’s a lot of work when in start-up mode.

http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12508