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Markus Winkelhock raced one GP - the 2007 European Grand Prix, raced at the Nuerburgring, in is home country of Germany -. He started last in the grid, but a last-minute poker move by Spyker saw him being the only driver with wet tyres for the start and made him jump to the lead at the end of the first lap, when everybody else pitted for adequate tyres. The race was eventually suspended and, in the second start, Winkelhock started from first position.

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dumrick wrote:Markus Winkelhock raced one GP - the 2007 European Grand Prix, raced at the Nuerburgring, in is home country of Germany -. He started last in the grid, but a last-minute poker move by Spyker saw him being the only driver with wet tyres for the start and made him jump to the lead at the end of the first lap, when everybody else pitted for adequate tyres. The race was eventually suspended and, in the second start, Winkelhock started from first position.
very good! the question was a little bit misleading but it shouldn't be too easy should it!
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Great question... =D>
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That was misleading as in all the statistics re starts don't count. At least Dumrick found it and we can move on to another question.
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RDJEHV wrote:very good! the question was a little bit misleading but it shouldn't be too easy should it!
It was misleading enough to require some creative thinking :D

So, my turn and I really don't have a good question, so this will do it:

Which car (make/model) was the first fitted with semi-automatic transmission in F1?

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Semi auto is a wide field, but the Ferrari 639/640 (1988/1989) had a sequential gearbox by Barnard. It depends of how you count it. 640 was designed with the semi auto to begin with and was raced with it.

In 1974, the Lotus 76 had a solution with a button on the gear-shift knob for an electrically manouvered coupling. I wouldn't call that semi auto but hey, people have different opinions about this.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Semi auto is a wide field, but the Ferrari 640 (1989) had a sequential gearbox by Barnard.
Semi-auto in the sense that it doesn't require multiple inputs (lever, clutch) to change gears. I've used that term in the sense it is currently used. No trick there. The 640 had a semi-auto, but it wasn't the first to be raced in F1.

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Semi auto is a wide field, but the Ferrari 639/640 (1988/1989) had a sequential gearbox by Barnard. It depends of how you count it. 640 was designed with the semi auto to begin with and was raced with it. 639 wasn't raced apparently.

In 1974, the Lotus 76 had a solution with a button on the gear-shift knob for an electrically manouvered coupling. I wouldn't call that semi auto but hey, people have different opinions about this. If this qualifies as one input I'll nominate that solution as well.
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That's right, the Lotus 76 had an electronically-operated clutch, when changing gears. We have different books on transmission types, but that's semi-auto by me.

Not a great or difficult question, as I had mentioned, but I'm not very inspired today..

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What was the record string of pole positions a driver took at one F1 race. The pole must be won each year in an uninterrupted queue to count. Driver name, race name and number of poles is required.
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dumrick wrote:That's right, the Lotus 76 had an electronically-operated clutch, when changing gears. We have different books on transmission types, but that's semi-auto by me.

Not a great or difficult question, as I had mentioned, but I'm not very inspired today..
It's a shame that Renault wasn't in F1 in the `60s

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_8# ... ansmission
Automatic transmission

From 1965 onwards the 8 and 10 were available with an automatic transmission of unique design. This transmission was developed and produced by Jaeger. The clutch was replaced by a powder ferromagnetic coupler. The transmission was a three-speed mechanical unit similar to that of the Dauphine, but with synchromesh on all gears.

The system used these input devices:

* a push button control panel by means of which the driver could select forward or reverse drive
* a governor which sensed vehicle speed and throttle position

A "relay case" containing electromagnetic switches interpreted signals from these devices and commanded operation of:

* the coupler
* a decelerator to close the throttle during gear changes
* an actuator consisting of a solenoid to select operation of the reverse-first or second-third shift rail, and a reversible electric motor to engage the gears

The system was thus entirely electromechanical: no hydraulics, pneumatics or electronics were used.

Benefits of the system included no loss of fuel economy as compared to the manual transmission version, and easy adaptability to the car.

Deficiencies included loss of performance due to there being only three available gears, and somewhat jerky operation during gear changes.

This transmission was also used in the Dauphine and the Caravelle.

WhiteBlue wrote:What was the record string of pole positions a driver took at one F1 race. The pole must be won each year in an uninterrupted queue to count. Driver name, race name and number of poles is required.
WMSC (Welt Meister Michael Schumacher) Spanish GP, Catalunya 2000-2004, 5 in a row.

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manchild wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:What was the record string of pole positions a driver took at one F1 race. The pole must be won each year in an uninterrupted queue to count. Driver name, race name and number of poles is required.
WMSC (Welt Meister Michael Schumacher) Spanish GP, Catalunya 2000-2004, 5 in a row.
Close! Michael had two strings of fivers. But that wasn't the best!
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Some hints? If it is again about Nurburgring or Avus, I'll kill myself :lol:

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manchild wrote:Some hints? If it is again about Nurburgring or Avus, I'll kill myself :lol:
Oh, come on, your supposed to be the greatest. :wink: :oops: You will find it in due time.
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senna in san marino. 7 times starting '85