Red Bull RB6

[Terrible3]

Apart from the broken leg now being fine, MW's more cautious approach to driving (not really fair to Mark to say this???) could see him beating SV at a number of venues.

Not really any change from last year eh? Mark was a lot closer than seems to be the word on forums these days, other than the bad run of luck late in the season they were pretty much equal. Malaysia, Spain, Monaco, Turkey, Germany, Hungary, and Brazil Mark was ahead of Sebvet.

You make it sound like Vettel never had any bad luck of his own..... Vettel has a greater future potential and is already quicker than MW. The only race where Mark was clearly was the measure of Vettel was at the German GP. When Vettel did win he dominated Webber. Anyways lets stick to the car.....

[LoudHoward]

Double post. *shakes fist at net*

[LoudHoward]

You make it sound like Vettel never had any bad luck of his own..... Vettel has a greater future potential and is already quicker than MW. The only race where Mark was clearly was the measure of Vettel was at the German GP. When Vettel did win he dominated Webber. Anyways lets stick to the car.....

Mark had more things out of his control go against him, all things considered, when taking both their "bad luck" into account, their points end up virtually equal. I'm not arguing who was quicker, Vettel obviously had the one lap pace over Mark last year.

P.S: RB6 is shiny.

[univex]

My point about MW being the more cautious driver stems from SV being closer to the ragged edge, for eg. driving over the curbs more, gaining those last few 100th's by really throwing the car around.

I recall the team telling commentators that he was constantly (often) on the radio asking about the fastest lap and whether he had it. Particularly in the start of the season. I also remember an interview with SV where he was questioning his own driving style and almost suggesting that he was harder on the car which could have led to some of the failures he suffered.

This being the case for 2009, will SV be able to control his driving to look after the tyres when he needs to.
Will the Brawn (Merc) which had so much trouble warming tyres last season have a distinct advantage with tyres given the extra kilos?

Eagerly waiting the next Prost to come to the fore! Welcome back driver tactics (in lieu of team tactics, race engineer tactics, etc.).

[D'Leh]

Vettel has a greater future potential and is already quicker than MW.

I wouldn't say it like that. Obviously Sebastian has greater potential, because he is so very young. But he isn't faster. In qualifying sessions 1 and 2 they were almost equally fast the entire season. It was just, that the Sebastian could cope better with the race fueled 3rd qualifying session. Mark was already struggling with that in 07 and 08, when he was doing a superb job in the first two qualifying sessions more often than not, only to struggle in Q3 afterwards. That and Sebastian got the lighter fuel load almost every time. This leads to many people believing he is faster. I think that's a very distorted perception. Come Sundays Mark usually looked that little bit stronger.

LoudHoward and univex could be spot on there. The new qualifying rules as well as the changed focus on tire wear could well be an advantage for Mark - or more precisely could iron out his "Q3 weakness" for that matter. Can he up his game? From Red Bull's perspective one could only hope so. But then again, first we have to see if Newey built a winner once again. We'll know in 4 weeks.

[Giblet]

They are both excellent drivers, and push each other in different ways.

Now back to the car please. Ying yang awaits.

[segedunum]

MW's more cautious approach to driving (not really fair to Mark to say this???) could see him beating SV at a number of venues.

Mark Webber is one of the most aggressive and over compensating drivers I have ever seen. He's aggressive on the throttle, you see him moving the car around quite a bit coming out of corners and his defensive manoeuvres are extremely risque to the point that one of these days we might well see quite a large accident. He's certainly fast enough is Mark, but he's going to have to calm it if he wants the consistency he needs to win a championship.

Now, back to the RB6.................

[Blackout]

Red Bull tested 2 quite different new wings in Jerez (different end-plates and upper winglets)...
The last one :

[christopher.mahlon]

These front wings are starting to look as crazy as they did before the rule reset.

[djos]

MW's more cautious approach to driving (not really fair to Mark to say this???) could see him beating SV at a number of venues.

Mark Webber is one of the most aggressive and over compensating drivers I have ever seen. He's aggressive on the throttle, you see him moving the car around quite a bit coming out of corners and his defensive manoeuvres are extremely risque to the point that one of these days we might well see quite a large accident. He's certainly fast enough is Mark, but he's going to have to calm it if he wants the consistency he needs to win a championship.

I agree, Mark has always been one of the best drivers at compensating for an ordinary car and back in the 1 lap shoot-out days was always sticking his Jag in places it had no right to be!

I think the low fuel Qually of 2010 will really suit him this year and I cant wait to see both Webbo and Boy Wonder blazing their RB6's into Pole Position!

[Giblet]

Most teams have a single 'roll' at the end of the front wing, under the endplate's very outside edge. Has been common from car to car AFAIK.



This to my eyes is the first time there is a second roll right before it, where the main plane meets the vertical for the endplate, and rounds out the top as well.

An elegant looking solution to a problem we never knew existed. The sharp line on most cars where the endplate meets the main plane on the inside makes more sense smooth like that.

[ringo]

I've seen that before on some LMP1 Lemans cars. Trickle up technology

[Pedro]

...
This to my eyes is the first time there is a second roll right before it, where the main plane meets the vertical for the endplate, and rounds out the top as well.
...

I guess they were using that solution almost whole last season.

[imightbewrong]

Most teams have a single 'roll' at the end of the front wing, under the endplate's very outside edge. Has been common from car to car AFAIK.



This to my eyes is the first time there is a second roll right before it, where the main plane meets the vertical for the endplate, and rounds out the top as well.

An elegant looking solution to a problem we never knew existed. The sharp line on most cars where the endplate meets the main plane on the inside makes more sense smooth like that.

are just a few examples from last year, not exactly the same on the macca but similar

[Giblet]

Thanks, I just never noticed it before for some reason.

So many details