F1 Quiz Chain

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Ferguson P99 Climax
The car's last major F1 race was its moment of motor racing immortality, as Moss drove the P99 to victory in a damp International Gold Cup at Oulton Park.
I can't find the ABS though
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WhiteBlue wrote:I can't find the ABS though
I can, but you found it first :wink:

http://www.ferguson-museum.co.uk/racing_car.htm
This innovative car had a front mounted Coventry Climax 4-cylinder engine, Ferguson four wheel drive system and Dunlop Maxaret ABS brakes.

P99 was fitted with anti-lock brakes and although not used in racing, they were used for high speed test purposes.

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That is the one I was looking at. The "4 wheel drives" by Alan Henry has it as using the ABS...

Anyways - I guess we get another long riddle from WB 8)

The use of the 4 wheel drive systems were killed dead by the advent of aero and so we have come to today's F1.

it took until Audi used the Quattro in rally that we had some mainstream racing 4wd.
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We are looking for a driver who won a WDC and scored all points of the season by race wins. That season became unique for another unusual record. Name season and driver.
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That's Jochen Rindt, 1970. The first (and hopefully the last) posthumous F1 champion.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sy5icLtBY0[/youtube]

Bio from GP.com encyclopedia

RIP Jochen


Indeed the unforgettable Jochen Rindt. =D>

Over to you timbo!
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OK

A special version of F1 car was built because of the dispute. It raced once, took third place and was disqualified.
Name the car, driver, race and what was particular about the car.

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I'll take this one.

Back in 1982, in the heat of the dispute between the FOCA and the manufacturers (after these had raced the Brazilian GP with water tanks for "brake cooling" that effectively allowed them to run underweight for most of the race, being topped up for scrutineering), Ferrari apparently opted to demonstrate the FOCA teams how ridiculous it would be to start interpreting the rule book by the letter.

They appeared in Long Beach (the US Grand Prix West) with their 126C2 sporting two rear wings, one in front of another, each one with the regulated width, but each offset laterally, one to the left and other to the right side that, combined, spanned maximum vehicle width. I'm unsure if Didier Pironi used this "gadget" but it was efficient enough to give Gilles Villeneuve third place. The wing was subsequently protested by Tyrrell, and Gilles got disqualified.

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Correct
here's the video review of that race
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Hb3MDG-Aw

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Thanks for the video review. A doubt I had for a long time was cleared: Pironi had the same wing as Villeneuve.

My question: name the short-lived organization and the french F1 persona that led it, that was born (and dead) on the turmoil of those years.

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FISA, Jean Marie Balestre?

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manchild wrote:FISA
Would not call FISA short lived :roll:
It was born out of CSI as wiki tells. I can't find when it was named FISA, but it was at least as early as 1970.

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World Federation of Motor Sport (WFMS)?

That one seams to be the shortest one when it matters lifetime.

Got to admit that the question is a bit confusing, since the only French name in the war was JM Balestre, while FISA existed for many years (FOCA too).

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dumrick wrote:Thanks for the video review. A doubt I had for a long time was cleared: Pironi had the same wing as Villeneuve.

My question: name the short-lived organization and the french F1 persona that led it, that was born (and dead) on the turmoil of those years.
The Grand Prix Drivers' Association led by Didier Pironi and Niki Lauda organised a 'drivers' strike' at the 1982 South African Grand Prix in protest, with the majority of the drivers in support.

The GPDA was short lived and re-founded in 1994 after the death of Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger by Niki Lauda and Michael Schumacher.
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GPDA is mentioned even back in the 60s. How can that be "short-lived" than?

http://forix.autosport.com/8w/fiasco-in ... eline.html
FISA-FOCA war timeline

February 1964: the Formula 1 Constructors Association (F1CA) is formed as a united front to race organisers in order to negotiate a better package of starting money, prize money and transport costs.

Autumn 1967: the F1CA gets into its first political involvement of note when it gets stuck in the middle of a brooding conflict between the ACF, organiser of the French GP, and French motorsport body FFSA. This is resolved when the French government appoints the FFSA, and its ambitious general secretary Jean-Marie Balestre, to the role previously held by the ACF. Being on the sidelines of this French battle, the F1CA and the Grand Prix Drivers Association (GPDA) criticize the CSI’s helpless behaviour in the matter and demand that the CSI be made independent of the FIA, with powers distributed more democratically.
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