2010 Strategies

[Roland Ehnström]

This topic has been discussed before, check this thread 2010 tyre strategy

btw, the new rule that you have to start the race on the same tires you qualified on may mean more teams try the strategy I'm suggesting in the above thread: To make a short first stint on softs followed by two longer stints on hards (rather than making the short stint on softs at the end of the race).

[WhiteBlue]

Formula one is just getting more and more ridiculous.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81069

look 11 posts above and you see that the same has been posted already.

which was already discussed 8 posts before that.

Only now we have to assume that the decision of the sporting working group will be signed off by the F1 Comission and the WMSC. So as this item was a bit speculative in mid January it is now almost a reality upon us.

[Richard]

Once again we may not find out who is the fastest person in the fastest car.

I disagree. The person on pole will be the person who is quickest around the track in race trim (ie same tyres).

Formula one is just getting more and more ridiculous.

What is ridiculous about it?

[WhiteBlue]

Once again we may not find out who is the fastest person in the fastest car.

I disagree. The person on pole will be the person who is quickest around the track in race trim (ie same tyres).

But you do not know if faster quali times could have been achieved if all drivers had been on optimum qualifying tyres. If team mates select different tyre strategies you still have a devalued pole position and outqualifying.

It is the wrong entertainment that the teams pursue. Balls out qualifying was the thing I was hoping for after years of bullshit.

[tarzoon]

Balls out qualifying was the thing I was hoping for after years of bullshit.

+1

[Callum]

Balls out qualifying was the thing I was hoping for after years of bullshit.

+1

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[Pandamasque]

+13255

[ringo]

What's also interesting is that, the if a car is in the top 10 by virtue of soft tyres and empty tank, it can expect a different scenario once the tanks a filled up and the tyres are cold for the start. The car might not even feel setup properly to the driver once the conditions change.
The only way the racing will be exciting is if there is a naturally faster car that qualified at the back on a harder tyre. This car will have better mid race speed, less tyre wear with the full tanks, and can overtake the slower cars that are running heavy on degrading soft tyres.
There will be an excitement window in every race, maybe occurring when the soft tyres begin to go for most teams. And it's totally dependent on if a faster car qualifies at the back.

If i were a race engineer, i think i would go for the hard compound at the start for most tracks, and only start on soft for tracks like Monaco and Singapore.
It's a no brainier to have the softs when the car is flying light at the end of the race.
If there is no difference between a medium compound and a hard or soft at a certain track, then that's where things get interesting.

[Pinguim BRA]

Hi everybody. I would like to know how the drivers weight will impact in the overall race strategy. As some drivers are visibly much lighter tan others, these extra pounds of fuel they can save will mean faster times mid race onwards?

[Fil]

Red Bull's recent practice.. claims changes were made sub-2sec


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8bcHtyJy0[/youtube]

[DaveKillens]

Because two different compounds must be used, and one is usually "softer" and less durable than the other one, it would be foolish to start the race on those "softer" tires. With a full load of fuel, those "soft" tires won't last long. If they were used at the end of the race when the car is much lighter, then the "softer" tires would have a longer lifetime.

It all depends on each individual track and the wear characteristics of the two compounds. If a certain compound can be made productive for 90% of the race, then it's possible we may see a two-stopper. Most of the time, expect a three-stop race strategy, with the first two stints using the more durable compound, and the last stint allocated to the less durable compound.

My belief is that if someone is foolish enough to start on soft tires, they will sprint away for about four laps, then have to come in to replace then, because they would be toast.

[tok-tokkie]

I take it those were typos. 3 stop should be 3 stint requiring 2 stops.

[marcush.]

driver weight affects only freedom of ballast placement as you have to confirm to the mandatory minimum weight at the end of the race.so thats why you also drive over the marbles to pickup weight and tyre height-ride height.

so the light driver has a considerable advantage in the car as he is the one part wich can be lightenend without resorting to the drawing board or taking technical risks! so if a driver is 20 kilos lighter thats a siginificant advantage.
no more bulls like Mansell in F1 ...

[myurr]

Red Bull's recent practice.. claims changes were made sub-2sec

Hmmm, by my count it was more like 4 - 6 seconds of the car being stationary. Also seemed like it was the rear jack that was holding things up, with it taking 1 - 3 secs to get the rear of the car lifted.

[Hangaku]

Red Bull's recent practice.. claims changes were made sub-2sec

Hmmm, by my count it was more like 4 - 6 seconds of the car being stationary. Also seemed like it was the rear jack that was holding things up, with it taking 1 - 3 secs to get the rear of the car lifted.

Indeed, there was all sorts going on in the video clips - guns not right behind the wheel, wheels not being put on straight, front jack being lowered too soon. At best (in these videos at least), the pit stop is four and a bit seconds. It just goes to show how fast (if actually possible) a 2.5 second pit stop must be.