F1 Quiz Chain

[WhiteBlue]

GPDA is mentioned even back in the 60s. How can that be "short-lived" than?

Perhaps an error? Because GPMA terminated shortly after those events.

FISA was also a very long lived organization. It was already set up in the 20ties under a different name but essentially always operating as a sub comity of FiA.

[manchild]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix ... ssociation

The GPDA was founded in 1961 and was active during the 1960s and 1970s. Then, as now, the GPDA's primary objective was to improve and maintain safety standards. This led to boycotts of the Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps in 1969 and the Nürburgring in 1970 and after 1976.

On the GPDA's formation in May 1961, Stirling Moss was elected chairman. Its initial aims were to obtain representation on the Commission Sportive Internationale de la FIA (CSI), which at the time was motorsport's governing body in order to improve safety standards and provisions for both drivers and spectators. After Moss retired from the sport in 1963, Jo Bonnier succeeded him.[1]

The organisation was disbanded during the 1982 Formula One season due to the effects of the changing commercial organisation of F1 and the conflicts between FOCA and FIA.

The GPDA was reformed over the weekend of the 1994 Monaco Grand Prix, following the deaths of Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger, as well as the serious accident of Rubens Barrichello, at the San Marino Grand Prix two weeks earlier (the drivers had proposed its reformation in the drivers' briefing on the morning of the race in San Marino, with Senna being appointed one of its directors just hours before his death).

In 1996, the association was incorporated in the UK as a company limited by guarantee as Grand Prix Drivers Association Ltd.[2] For the first time, the association had a formal constitution, and permanent offices in Monaco.

[dumrick]

It seems you could use a little help here, but WhiteBlue is on the right track.

Clearly, I'm referring to the 1982 status quo and the issue, on the dawn of the Concorde Agreement, of the struggles for relative power between federation/drivers/manufacturers/garagistes...
On that setting, an association was created, meant to be pan-motorsport (not only acting in F1) and shortly lived.

[dumrick]

It seems no-one is tackling this question. Maybe I should formulate another one?

(Bump in disguise...)

[dumrick]

The answer I was looking for was the Professional Racing Drivers Association,PRDA, presided by Pironi, that had a brief role at the time F1 drivers were contesting (in court of appeal) the fines received after the driver strike at South Africa 1982.

Maybe WhiteBlue should carry the Quiz Chain on, he was pretty close to the answer.

[Sebp]

For anyone interested, I found this article on the subject in the St.Petersburg Times from 1982:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8 ... 49,7481885
Enjoy!

[WhiteBlue]

Maybe WhiteBlue should carry the Quiz Chain on, he was pretty close to the answer.

What is the ranking of engine supplying nations in terms of F1 victories. Give the numbers of victories for the top three nations.

[Roland Ehnström]

UK 243 (Cosworth 176, Climax 40, BRM 18, Vanwall 9)
Italy 234 (Ferrari 211, Alfa-Romeo 12, Maserati 11)
France 124 (Renault 121, Matra 3)
Germany 123 (Mercedes 77, TAG-Porsche 25, BMW 20, Porsche 1)
Japan 76 (Honda 72, Mugen-Honda 4)
USA 12 (Offenhauser 11, Weslake 1)
Australia 8 (Repco)

...according to my friend Wiki.

[WhiteBlue]

Close, but all the Ford Cosworth victories are not counted for the UK but for the US.

We have the rule in F1 that the nationality of the owner counts.

So how would that change the statistics?

[CMSMJ1]

The Cosworth engine was not an American engine though was it?

You are telling me that the Repco was an American one too?

[WhiteBlue]

The Cosworth engine was not an American engine though was it?

You are telling me that the Repco was an American one too?

Yes, the Ford Cosworth was American because Ford owned it. It just the same as Red Bull is Austrian and Mercedes German. Having UK companies do the job does not give them legitimate ownership. They sold their services to the foreign capital and so the flag and the music will be foreign.

Climax, BRM, Vanwall and Repco were British owned and their 78 victories go on the British account.

Ford's 176 victories are American together with the 11 Offenhauser Indy victories. So the Americans take place two with 187.

The Italians took 211 with Ferrari, 12 with Alfa Romeo and 11 with Maserati to a total of 234.

Renault took 121 and Matra 3 for a total of 124 for France.


So in my book it looks like this:

234 Italy
187 USA
124 France
98 Germany (Merc 77, BMW 20, Porsche 1)
78 Great Britain
76 Japan (Honda 72, Mugen 4)
25 Switzerland (all by TAG)

Germany would look better if the TAG Porsches would be counted in, but TAG is a Swiss corporation and so they take the honor by paying for it.

Over to Roland because he came closest.

[Roland Ehnström]

Well in my mind it's far more important who built the engine than who paied for it, but anyway it's just a matter of definition. By the way, you missed Weslake.

[Roland Ehnström]

My question goes like this:

It is widely known that the 1970 US Grand Prix at Watkins Glen clinched a posthumous world championship title for Jochen Rindt, the first and hopefully only time it will ever happen in the history of Formula 1. But you probably did not know that another, rather less well-known and infinitely less important, statistical record was also set during the same Grand Prix. Can you figure out what it is?

[xpensive]

Reine Wisell finishing 3rd in his first GP perhaps?

[Sebp]

Maybe this:
Lotus clinched their 4th constructors crown in that race, which at the time was more than any other team had achieved. Although they were the record holders anyway since 1968.