2.4l V8 v restricted 3.0l V10

[monkeyboy1976]

Not sure if you engine blokes have done this one to death already. But, regarding the fact that teams can have a "restricted" V10 instead of a 2.4l V8, is there a real chance that Scuderia Toro Rosso (the only team doing so) could surprise a few people (including the FIA) in Bahrain?
Is there any news on how all this will be measured by the FIA? What do the regs currently say?
I know they will restrict it by revs but...

I'm a chassis type myself so I'd like an expert opinion.
I just hope the FIA handle this thing well and don't allow Formula One to lose credibility as it did in Indy 2005.

There's a poll with this to guage the general mood also....

[Guest]

You have to remember the v10s are last years design but I guess its hard to restrict the v10 to produce anything like the same torque and power curve as the v8? One must also remember the larger picture of the enitire package. The V8 will allow a tighter aero package at the rear, but may also suffer from vibration problems. I hint at Cosworth, they know what they are doing with those v8 lumps, look at the DFV series!

[dumrick]

What are really the restrictions to V10? I heatd only about rpm, if that's true than the V10's will have more torque until top rpm are reached. That could, at least, give them some advantage in circuits like Monaco (and there, the aero disadvantage will not be too great).

[Guest]

They have to run a restrictor as well, so the volumetric efficiency is basically controlled so thats kind of how they 'try' to even out the torque curve advantage, although they will only partially sucseed in my veiw.

Mr T

[DaveKillens]

I may be incorrect, but I recall in a previous news article the people at Toro Rossi knew that if the V-10 displayed better performance than the new V-8's that they would most likely be restricted further, to ensure that the older generation engine didnt enjoy a performance advantage. It appears that may what will happen.
I mean, something will definitely be done. What if Toro Rossi suddenly won the first few races? The screams of agony, the howling and moaning would wake Mad Max from his afternoon nap, and he would have to silence the noise.

[Guest]

I don't think the advantage will be large enougth to make the STR chassis trouble the mclarens, renaults and ferraris.

[monkeyboy1976]

I was thinking how they would restrict the torque also. I see now that it'll be a restriction on the intake. Thanks for the info.
STR may have an advantage in the first race or so but I agree that the chassis will hold them back. Maybe they could be on for a solid points finish, up there with Saubers/Williams etc...
I am sure that there will indeed be many arguments over this between the teams and the FIA which hopefully won't damage the sport
Maybe BMW-Sauber, a team with also nothing to really lose this season as they are restructuring, should have also taken the restricted V10 route with an interim car? Could have paid off for them.

So much has changed from 2005 - 06, the first few races will be *very* interesting.

[jezzwa]

The FIA will ensure that the V10s are ALWAYS below the performance of the V8's, they are not allowed to give an advantage to any team but ferrari

[RH1300S]

Here are some thoughts to throw in...........

If talking about equivalency, Cosworth are the only engine maker supplying both. So, if a Williams comes 1st/2nd and the Toro Rosso team manage 3rd/4th you could argue that the equivalency is working (the others haven't done their job properly). What would the FIA do then?

[Guest]

depends on the engine. a restricted mercedes v10 is faster than all the v8's. the cosworth doesn't seem to be able to hack it.

pip

[West]

I'm sure the V10 will have less vibration issues than the V8

[Guest]

give me a break....so racing v10s n now goin to change it... insane

[ranger]

ok..if you guys say 2.4L V8 will be better...let's play a bet on Toro Rosso...using a 3.0L rev-limited V10....what if Toro Rosso dominated the season?...a championship? for V8's that time.................

[johny]

obviously having 600 c.c. more is a great adventage, toro rosso isn't going to be on top but they'll probably be over midland, also they should be more realiable using lower-revs

[ranger]

maybe your right.....like a star....the more gas...the shorter it's life...less gas...longer it's life