Is Hamilton desperate or what?

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Sean H wrote:Didn't Vettel dispatch "the boss" in the rain nearly costing "the boss" his championship had it not been for a pass on a hopeless Glock on dry tires on the last lap of the race?

Let's not call anybody "rain master" unless they actually win the races we are crowning them for.

As far as anything on Friday or Saturday, they only give trophies and points out for Sunday.
Vettle "passed" LH after a backmarker on a charge(Kubica on full wets) passed both of them and then practically stopped infront of LH. There was no dispatching.

Please people watch the races.

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ISLAMATRON wrote:
Sean H wrote:Didn't Vettel dispatch "the boss" in the rain nearly costing "the boss" his championship had it not been for a pass on a hopeless Glock on dry tires on the last lap of the race?

Let's not call anybody "rain master" unless they actually win the races we are crowning them for.

As far as anything on Friday or Saturday, they only give trophies and points out for Sunday.
Vettle "passed" LH after a backmarker on a charge(Kubica on full wets) passed both of them and then practically stopped infront of LH. There was no dispatching.

Please people watch the races.
at no point Kubica stopped! It was just normal overtaking.

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Sean H wrote:Didn't Vettel dispatch "the boss" in the rain nearly costing "the boss" his championship had it not been for a pass on a hopeless Glock on dry tires on the last lap of the race?

Let's not call anybody "rain master" unless they actually win the races we are crowning them for.

As far as anything on Friday or Saturday, they only give trophies and points out for Sunday.
The word dispatched is inappropriate. :lol: You are forgetting Kubica trying not the to be unlapped, which is not good sportsmanship, messing up Hamilton's line forcing him to understeer. Vettel did nothing masterful, all he did was drive the car into the space created. Any driver would have done that without a second thought. Watch the video yourself. You are scraping at crumbs. Hamilton has a plethora of examples proving his worth in the wet, yet for Vettel, there are few examples of him even overtaking anyone in the wet.
Nice try, but that weak example is used too many times, goes to show how little there is compared to the BOSS highlight reel collection.
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Now for the spanish GP, Hamilton has resumed his typical dominance in the race, being able to hold his pace intelligently while lapping as quick as the red-bulls. Button has shown his true colours again, a little indecisive on passing top class drivers, and tyre heating problems, though he had an unfortunate pit stop.
Hamilton unluckily failed to finish, but when it comes to most things people criticize him for, they are none existent.
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Who is the Boss? Is there a boss racing? Why is he the boss? Is there a union or something?

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I like how this thread started out as a Hammy basher, and has evolved to sing his praises.
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I thought the thread title was a question !
the answer is clearly WHAT , despite today's finish
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Nah, he is not desperate, with a pit babe like her, racing would be the least of his worries.

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Hamilton says he is one of the kindest to his tyres, as everybody knows. Right?

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Button is the whiniest driver on the grid!

Whenever hamilton says something about the team, he is disrespectful and out of order.

The amount of times i have seen button critisize his new team, it's astounding. You would have thought he was in the team for years.
This guy is complaining too much now. Anytime he can't compete he finds an excuse. How desperate can Button be!
"The car in Q1 felt pretty good on the harder tyres but we didn't run them in Q3 so a little bit of a shame really," Button told TV crews in Monaco.

"I think maybe that was a better option. We ran on the softer tyre like everyone else and I struggled on it - a lot of movement in high speed at the rear and a lot of understeer at low speed apex. Didn't feel great.

"I don't think Lewis [Hamilton] is particularly that happy either, he's fifth and I'm eighth, so I'm obviously a long way back but even so it's a bit frustrating. The car didn't feel that great in qualifying on the soft tyres so it's a pity we chose to go that direction."

Button's incident with Massa came at the end of his first flying lap in Q3, when he encountered the Ferrari going into the final corner and had to slow down, while Massa then accelerated away to start his own first run.

"I had so much space and I don't know what he was thinking," said Button. "There are only 10 cars out there in Q3 so it should be easy to keep out of the way of cars coming round, but he obviously wasn't looking in his mirrors and it was right at the end of a timed lap as well - it was my first timed lap of the session.

"Very annoying. I don't know what the lap time would have been but very annoying that he got in the way because it was blatantly slowing me down."
Pure whining!! Saying it's a shame for the team to put him on softs. If he was on hards he would have been 10th to a force india. :lol:
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Button whines in every interview, or at least the ones we see on the BBC.

Hamilton is usually always appreciative of the team, fans and in the case of Monaco, the track.

Yet, the rare occasion when he does whine, e.g. Australia, he gets all the hatred. It really doesn't make sense to me. Especially as in Aus he had every reason to have a moan.

Anyway, hopefully he'll get some good points tomorrow after he was robbed 18 by the rim failure last week. (rim, not him eating the tyres as the conclusion many jumped to).

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deus1066 wrote:It really doesn't make sense to me. Especially as in Aus he had every reason to have a moan.

Anyway, hopefully he'll get some good points tomorrow after he was robbed 18 by the rim failure last week. (rim, not him eating the tyres as the conclusion many jumped to).
Makes perfect historical sense to me... nothing new.

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It's good that Button is whining though. Imagine if he wasn't?
We'll probably hear a conspiracy from the fans at the end of the year about driver preference and who got the best engineers and car.
His whining also shows that he thinks he is somehow faster, but is hampered by his setups, which is good as well because he keeps his confidence and wont feel discouraged.

mclaren needs Button to be as comfortable as possible, if they want to continue with him. So they might overlook some of his digs on the engineers. Sometimes you would think he knows more than them.
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Mclaren need to build the car around Hamilton now!! :lol:

Button has no answer for the redbulls, they might just run away with the championship. His lucky streak has dried up, it's going back to second half 2009.

Renault has chose to build the team around Kubica and it's working brilliantly. Lewis is down on points, but it doesn't look like it will stay that way. He will more than likely be the one fighting the Ferraris and redbulls in most of the races, so it would be wise to shore up there efforts.
Unequal treatment or neccesary move to get a WDC?
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I agree mostly, but the Kubica comparison is somewhat flawed. Yes Bob had a great weekend but alot of it was because the Renault is so well suited to the track... It seems that its shorter wheelbase allows much more nimbleness around the tight confines of Monaco... look for him to do well at Hungary, Valencia & Singapore... but not much else... he has merely gotten points from the reliability issues & mistakes of others... as the season wears on those extra points dry up and BOB has no chance at the WDC... Where does that leave Renault? 5th at best in the WCC... what they need to do is get an experienced driver in the second seat so they even have any chance of moving up in the WCC... Or not getting caught by FIF1, who just got their first double points finish. Heidfeld would be a good choice for Renault, except for the fact that he is better than Bob and they like different things out of the car, that was the problem at BMW... atm they have to help Petrov do better if they hope to get any points out of the second seat... If Kubica was a top driver as many claim he is he wouldnt need the team to focus only on him to do well.

Focusing on 1 driver is a good strategy when you have a driver capable of winning races under almost all circumstances and have a car that is ok, but not great... such is the case at McL right now... Button has gotton all the attention he has needed to get comfortable in the team... but it is obvious that Lewis is the lead driver(Spain & Monaco Qual have showed this quite clearly)... since they have no chance at the WCC they should MOSTLY focus on trying to help Lewis get the WDC, while not losing sight of keeping 2nd in the WCC.

Renault's approach since the start of the season has been a flawed one, If BOB was the top level driver that he claims to be he wouldn't need the entire focus of the team... that should be on the rookie who needs as much help as possible to bring as many points as possible to the team for the WCC standings