Is Hamilton desperate or what?

[gibells]

"what the hell, I am only half distant into the race and you are already telling me to be careful with my brakes. Is this a race car?

Does no one consider that McLaren have not designed for purpose here. Or the same of the RB6 in Barca? We all knew brakes would be a major issue on the cars this year, and it's playing out just as we expected.

Don't let your emotions over one driver blind you to the real point here.

[segedunum]

While Lewis needs to mind he doesn't lose his head in the cockpit, I can totally understand his frustration. How is he supposed to save his brakes and by how much should he slow down? The information is meaningless.

I can't help but feel that McLaren have acquired far too many layers of middle management ready to give drivers and engineers every bit of pointless information under the sun.

[segedunum]

He can build until there are 2 mclaren tech centres by the pond, then build some more. He cant build more speed or talent.

Loaded and rather pointless comment I'm afraid. People are seemingly having a hard time grasping that simply looking at out-and-out speed at various points during qualifying or a race does not correllate with results. The simple arithmetic on race wins is:

Button 2 Hamilton 0

Those race wins came about because of driver brains and thinking, no less. That's what's required this season. The way things are looking it's entirely probable Lewis won't get another victory this season.

[Pandamasque]

Don't let your emotions over one driver blind you to the real point here.

He may have a point about the brakes in Monaco or the strategic mistakes in Melbourne, but it's extremely unprofessional to to even mention it during the race on the radio, let alone in that tone! Desperate? No. He's just a petchulant child and shows no signs of growing up. That is a fact he proves over an over again. Period.

[BreezyRacer]

Desperation turns to envy .. and maybe a little acceptance ..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83703

[donskar]

He can build until there are 2 mclaren tech centres by the pond, then build some more. He cant build more speed or talent.

Loaded and rather pointless comment I'm afraid. People are seemingly having a hard time grasping that simply looking at out-and-out speed at various points during qualifying or a race does not correllate with results. The simple arithmetic on race wins is:

Button 2 Hamilton 0

Those race wins came about because of driver brains and thinking, no less. That's what's required this season. The way things are looking it's entirely probable Lewis won't get another victory this season.

+1

Far from being a vicious attack on Hamilton. it is simple math. The season has a LONG way to go, but to this point, it is 2-0. Hamilton might see a message there, AND I'm sure Hamilton is smart enough to learn a bit from Button. Button is older and more experienced, that's a simple fact, and it sometimes shows. I hope Hamilton does NOT learn from Button, (unless Hamilton goes to Ferrari!) because Hamilton will be even more awesome if he does.

[lebesset]

aren't we all missing the point here

hamilton is right on the money , and is correct to put pressure on his team , doing it in public included !

there he is , all he can do is just follow along behind the guy in front , and he is told to save his brakes half way through the race !!!

what the hell IS going on at McLaren

[Mr Alcatraz]

I just think the engineer that is talking to him is a very talkative,
gregarious guy by nature. (although I don't know him personally).
I don't know what any of this has to do with the size of a googolplex.

[sAx]

Mark's the man of the moment anyway Chap, not the carribiean. Let's hope it can stay that way.

The caucasian deserves respect but the carribiean (sic) doesn't?

Question for the the Mods, is this the sort of 'intellectual garbage' that you would now like F1T to become recognised for??

sAx

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Mark's the man of the moment anyway Chap, not the carribiean. Let's hope it can stay that way.

The caucasian deserves respect but the carribiean (sic) doesn't?

Question for the the Mods, is this the sort of 'intellectual garbage' that you would now like F1T to become recognised for??

sAx

Does it really matter?
The antipodean did good, regardless of anyone else. The thread asks "is Hamilton desperate", from Sunday's radio comms, you have to say YES.

15 years of McLaren tutelage, his big F1 break, AND a car capable of championship winning 2 years running and he still openly berates his team?

[sAx]

I know this is not going to be go very well with most Mclaren/Lewis fans, but after the radion incident yesterday, do you think the Lewis Hamilton will see out his contract with Mclaren?

To me the radio incident was a PR disaster for a company like Mclaren and this is clearly a sign of the fustration building up in Lewis since Australia GP where Button won the race.

My guess is that Ron, through Martin, is going to have a big discussion with Lewis over this radio incident and Lewis being strong headed and without a manager, might not in the best position to make the right decision.

Do you not consider aspects of the BBC's selective edit? Are we to believe that this was the only conversation Lewis had with his Engineer throughout the entire race, or should we believe that someone monitors every aspect of what he has to say to find the more contentious sound byte?? to put this into context, I don't recall Trulli, Glock, Senna, et al back to pits, nothing interesting there I guess!!!

I guess unlike those who were able to solve the finer aspects of Mclaren's F-Duct, you are unable to solve the finer aspects of media manipulation.

sAx

[sAx]

Mark's the man of the moment anyway Chap, not the carribiean. Let's hope it can stay that way.

The caucasian deserves respect but the carribiean (sic) doesn't?

Question for the the Mods, is this the sort of 'intellectual garbage' that you would now like F1T to become recognised for??

sAx

Does it really matter?
The antipodean did good, regardless of anyone else. The thread asks "is Hamilton desperate", from Sunday's radio comms, you have to say YES.

15 years of McLaren tutelage, his big F1 break, AND a car capable of championship winning 2 years running and he still openly berates his team?

Subtleness clearly lost on you. Basically my question was seeking to find out why Mark was referred to by his given name and Lewis was not!
Not studied much geography since school, but I don't recall Stevenage being in the upper Antilles!

sAx

[WhiteBlue]

I don't think that Hamilton is desperate. He is driving what appears to be the third fastest car at the moment. At least that is what the constructor table says. I would think that he is a bit annoyed by that. If he were driving massively under his car's potential he would probably be desperate. His team mate has a bit more points but this isn't a massive issue at this time of the season. If you look at the driver odds and the team odds you find that the punters still expect Hamilton to do much better than Button. The real problem is the car as the team odds are clearly showing. McLaren have relatively lost performance compared to Ferrari but even worse they have massively lost to Red Bull. So I think Hamiltons odds are more negatively affected by his car than by his own driving. The logical reaction should be depression rather than desperation. The more Red Bull dominates the less pressure Hamilton will have.

[ISLAMATRON]

Loaded and rather pointless comment I'm afraid. People are seemingly having a hard time grasping that simply looking at out-and-out speed at various points during qualifying or a race does not correllate with results. The simple arithmetic on race wins is:

Button 2 Hamilton 0

Those race wins came about because of driver brains and thinking, no less. That's what's required this season. The way things are looking it's entirely probable Lewis won't get another victory this season.

So you are claiming Button out thought Lewis, Both Red Bull drivers, MS, Alonso Massa and nearly the entire field and all the engineers and weathermen that they employ?

Button took a chance and came out lucky, that is all... he did not outthink anyone(except for you)... I can tell you right now what went thru his head... Oh --- all of these guys are better/faster than me in the dry and the wet so since they are all pitting(and the team called him into the pits as well) I better stay out.

Please stop giving people undue credit.

WTF? you think he took his gloves off and stuck his hand out the cockpit to check how much rain was coming down... or maybe he created and installed a doppler radar in the car when McLaren wasnt looking? Button took a chance and got lucky, it could have easily gone the other way like when Kimi&co put on inters expecting rain and the rain never came...it destroyed their race.

[andrew]

Button took a chance and came out lucky

But I bet if Hamilton had done what Button had done, you would be saying it was the most inspired bit of driver skill ever. [-X

Part of being successful is taking a chance. Do you honestly think Schumacher would have been so successful in the wet if he never took a chance?

Maybe Hamilton should start taking some chances rather than just doing what the team tell him.