F1's tyre supplier for the upcoming year is back to work as it carries out another test session in a Toyota TF109 at France's Paul Ricard Circuit. Nick Heidfeld had the opportunity to run the test circuits high speed configuration, and was greeted by nice 28 degree weather.
bingo bango! And Pat Fry will be in charge of scraping off the Michelin and painting on Pirelli for Alonso's tires... those damned cheaters!spinmastermic wrote:Rossi will have the Pirelli's on the third Ferrari so Alonso can have the Michelinslebesset wrote:what part of sole supplier didn't you understand islamatron , or did I miss something here ?
Id worry about the spec more than the aero configurations, as the rumor, and this is likley to be made a one off after the season is the likley test for 4 days with race drivers with 2 cars per team at Abu Dhabi with the 2010 cars so they can get data. The reason for this is for each team to get data for the new tyre before they finalise everything before they enter the full build stages for their new cars.bill shoe wrote:It took too long to replace Bridgestone, but at least they were replaced by someone other than Michelin. I'll apply a quote from Wallace and Grommit: "That went about as well as could be expected".
I think teams are too optimistic that their tire-spec wish list will eliminate suprises next year. It's not clear that Pirelli can quickly make tires that will meet all the specs, and as JersyTom often points out you can know all the tire specs and still have little idea how it will actually work on the car. Also, teams that switched from Michelin to Bridgestone a few years ago found major aero changes from the different tire shoulder profiles. What shoulder profile will Pirelli come up with? Yep, pre-season testing will be interesting.
This is all OK, F1 needs less certainty and predictability.
If the experts are right you can expect a lot more variance in the Pirelli tyre sets than we had with the Bridgestones. The quality will not be as consistent. No idea why this is expected but that is what I read prior to the decision.lebesset wrote:the other thing is , how to ensure that every team gets the identical product !
Thats what always happens in industry when a new product mass production begins. You just cant do it right in the first attempt, even if they test for 6 months.WhiteBlue wrote: If the experts are right you can expect a lot more variance in the Pirelli tyre sets than we had with the Bridgestones. The quality will not be as consistent. No idea why this is expected but that is what I read prior to the decision.
Yes, pretty obvious. Consider also that they would get much less input as tyre testing is greatly reduced.Belatti wrote:Thats what always happens in industry when a new product mass production begins. You just cant do it right in the first attempt, even if they test for 6 months.WhiteBlue wrote: If the experts are right you can expect a lot more variance in the Pirelli tyre sets than we had with the Bridgestones. The quality will not be as consistent. No idea why this is expected but that is what I read prior to the decision.
Well, you can go ahead and ask the guys that ran Stock Car Brazil about Pirelli's consistency and safety. There's a reason they're no longer in that series. Also a reason why they weren't that hot in F1 the last time they were in the series, and promptly left.lebesset wrote:that doesn't tell me who they are does it !
experts in race tyre engineering work for tyre manufacturers , the ones I have spoken to say that pirelli are renowned for their consistency
does that not have as much validity as the other comments here ?
