Alonso says race 'manipulated' (He isn't angry any more)

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And yet again Luca can't stop making a fool of him self :wtf:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84876

If this happend to any other team, they would be angry but what Ferrari is doing is making F1 look bad! And because Schumi drives for Mercedes not everyone is agreeing with them.

HE can't handle the facts #-o
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doopie2you wrote:And yet again Luca can't stop making a fool of him self :wtf:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84876

If this happend to any other team, they would be angry but what Ferrari is doing is making F1 look bad! And because Schumi drives for Mercedes not everyone is agreeing with them.

HE can't handle the facts #-o
How is that wrong?
Meanwhile those who didn't follow the rules were penalised by the race officials in a way that was less severe than the damage suffered by those who did respect them.

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It is wrong because, F1 is not very populair any more. And now Luca is creaming the sport is unfair too! Some people would say the same, and stop watching F1!
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autogyro wrote:The safety car should be deployed as soon as possible after there is danger on the race circuit.
The issue should not be decided by any race positions or points.
The primary purpose of the SC is to slow the cars down and control them to prevent them from running into an accident or other incident thus making the situation worse.
Any changes to SC regulations should take this primary objective into account.
+1 Absolutely. Any considerations about reforming the race order take place after the incident is under control and the track is safe for passing.

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its funny how Alonso doesn't have a problem with 'manipulating' the rules when it gives him an advantage against others

i.e the so called 'promo' video last week

Its not just Alonso, it seems to be the whole mentality of the Ferrari team at the moment (hence Luca crying too).

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astracrazy wrote:its funny how Alonso doesn't have a problem with 'manipulating' the rules when it gives him an advantage against others

i.e the so called 'promo' video last week

Its not just Alonso, it seems to be the whole mentality of the Ferrari team at the moment (hence Luca crying too).
That extends to the fans as well - they spent years defending the FIA from accusations of bias towards Ferrari yet now they're crying foul. They defend Ferrari's bending of the rules (such as their wheel rims this year) yet bemoan others who manage to gain an advantage.

To be fair this is true of all fans of all teams, but I do wish everyone (sometimes myself included) could be a little more objective about these things.

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It is very simple, all teams will find holes in the rules of the FIA. That is what makes innovation! But it is not all the time about winning, it is about respect too! Respect to the FIA who says you can't have any Testing this season! But that means that you must have respect for the FIA it's decision! Even when that punishment or rule has a bad influents to your team!

Ferrari just can't handle the fact that McLaren got a punishment but they still got a podium place for Lewis.

Must i take you back to 2008, where Lewis and Kimi were fighting like hell for the victory at Spa! Hamilton took the short cut so he didn't got his tire slished open by Kimi. He let Kimi go and overtook him again! Hamilton got P1 but what later punisht for the short cut! And he was 3th!

McLaren didn't wind on about that, and how Manipulated or sh*t that was! They accepted the punishment and just tried harder the next race!
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doopie2you wrote:They accepted the punishment and just tried harder the next race!
Nope. They lodged a protest.

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timbo wrote:
doopie2you wrote:They accepted the punishment and just tried harder the next race!
Nope. They lodged a protest.
Yes, but they quited the protest very fast because else it would have damaged their name! Because of the 2007 Spy incident!
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Lodging a protest is one thing and is completely acceptable.
Motor mouthing in the press by a demented Montezemolo and Alonso wearing sour grapes in the press like a baffoon is not.

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doopie2you wrote:
timbo wrote:
doopie2you wrote:They accepted the punishment and just tried harder the next race!
Nope. They lodged a protest.
Yes, but they quited the protest very fast because else it would have damaged their name! Because of the 2007 Spy incident!
Nope once again. They lost in Court of Appeal. Two weeks later.
Is two weeks time fast?

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autogyro wrote:Lodging a protest is one thing and is completely acceptable.
Motor mouthing in the press by a demented Montezemolo and Alonso wearing sour grapes in the press like a baffoon is not.
It's OK, we know you don't like him.

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Well the way i remmemberd it, they dropped it. But ok!

And in Australia last year? DQ because Lewis let the Toyota pass. Trulli got the punishment and McLaren didn't say anything. Well this may be wrong, but Jarno went off! What else must Lewis do put it in N and wait until he comes back on track!

And then McLaren got punishment, no appeal then!
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timbo wrote:
autogyro wrote:Lodging a protest is one thing and is completely acceptable.
Motor mouthing in the press by a demented Montezemolo and Alonso wearing sour grapes in the press like a baffoon is not.
It's OK, we know you don't like him.
You know no such thing.
This is not a personal opinion of either man, it is a conclusion based on their actions.

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doopie2you wrote:And then McLaren got punishment, no appeal then!
It's not that you can appeal when you're caught lying.