Italian GP 2010 - Monza

[747heavy]

When Hamilton used soft tyres they were not new but used. They have not given it a serious try to go really quick. My feeling is they will use the flat wing without F-duct we saw on Hamilton's car today. It had half the wing angle that Button ran.

i never noticed he was used options as i figured it was his first run onte softer tyre all day. did jenson do the same?
i cant seepast hailton on pole tomorow.

maybe time for a eye check then
a far cry from pole
-- just kidding, should make for a interesting race

I´m a bit surprised by FI´s (Sutil´s) weak/bad performance

[donskar]

Great job by Alonso -- pole on his first Italian GP in a Ferrari!

Should be a great start tomorrow -- let's hope they all get through the first lap and have a good race.

[Giblet]

Good pole by Alonso, massive lap.

MSC as usual getting punted out before Q3. The car looked like it was losing grip in 'bursts' as it came into the parabolica.

[komninosm]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

But Webber bettered his time with his last lap, why didn't Hamilton?
I think not using F-Duct is a mistake.

[ell66]

very disapointing performance from hamilton in q3. he was over 3 tenths slower than his q2 effort. did he just not hok it up or what?

[andrew]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

But Webber bettered his time with his last lap, why didn't Hamilton?
I think not using F-Duct is a mistake.

Hamilton did noy mention anything about Webber in his post-qualifying interview. He has cited the rear wing and f-duct as the problem.

[Shrieker]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

But Webber bettered his time with his last lap, why didn't Hamilton?
I think not using F-Duct is a mistake.

Wrong. Hamilton posted a 22.4 in the morning practise. He could've easliy gotten down to 21s like Alonso did. Webber bettering his lap is irrelevant with this. The thing that's important is the distance to the car in front. Under a specific distance you start getting into dirty air ever so slightly and that's it.

[Shrieker]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

But Webber bettered his time with his last lap, why didn't Hamilton?
I think not using F-Duct is a mistake.

Hamilton did noy mention anything about Webber in his post-qualifying interview. He has cited the rear wing and f-duct as the problem.

Yeah sure. The reason he went slower compared to the morning practise is the "rear wing and the f-duct".

[andrew]

Hamitons EXACT words:

It [not using the F-duct] potentially had a quite a big impact on the end result in qualifying and I'm disappointed with fifth place. The car was sliding everywhere. It was the wrong choice, a bit of a mistake, but we'll push on tomorrow.

[ell66]

I feared it was the wron choice, however he'd of improved on his q2 time by just a tenth hed off been in 3rd.
we'l see what he can do tomorow i suppose, he has opertunities to overtake with his extra straightline speed, but needs to get ahead of webber at the start.

on a side note, i read on another forum he quailfied on the primes? is this true?

[dougskullery]

My feeling with Hamilton is that, when he pushed that little bit harder for Q3, he realised the set-up had nothing left to give. He tried to over-drive the car, and inevitably he lost out. It'd be stupid to pin the whole blame on the configuration, or on Hamilton himself. Rather, the set-up didn't leave much room for improvement in Q3, and the driver was caught by surprise and made a mess of things.

[donskar]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

But Webber bettered his time with his last lap, why didn't Hamilton?
I think not using F-Duct is a mistake.

Wrong. Hamilton posted a 22.4 in the morning practise. He could've easliy gotten down to 21s like Alonso did. Webber bettering his lap is irrelevant with this. The thing that's important is the distance to the car in front. Under a specific distance you start getting into dirty air ever so slightly and that's it.

Hmmm . . . So Hamilton held himself up by getting too close to Webber???

[ESPImperium]

Some technichal stats on Laps & Dtstance so far this weekend:

Jenson Button 106 614.058
Sébastien Buemi 103 596.679
Nico Rosberg 99 573.507
Nico Hulkenberg 99 573.507
Sebastian Vettel 98 567.714
Kamui Kobayashi 96 556.128
Michael Schumacher 95 550.335
Robert Kubica 95 550.335
Fernando Alonso 94 544.542
Pedro De La Rosa 87 503.991
Mark Webber 84 486.612
Lewis Hamilton 83 480.819
Felipe Massa 83 480.819
Vitaly Petrov 82 475.026
Heikki Kovalainen 82 475.026
Rubens Barrichello 79 457.647
Jaime Alguersuari 79 457.647
Lucas Di Grassi 77 446.061
Jarno Trulli 74 428.682
Timo Glock 73 422.889
Vitantonio Liuzzi 71 411.303
Adrian Sutil 70 405.510
Sakon Yamamoto 46 266.478
Bruno Senna 40 231.720
Paul di Resta 23 133.239

From what im seeing, if you put in the distance, you reap the rewards at Monza.

[Shrieker]

Hmmm . . . So Hamilton held himself up by getting too close to Webber???

No, he wanted to slow down to put a gap between himself and Webber who was in front. But if I'm not mistaken Webber had a car in front of him too so he too slowed down. Result: Hamilton did his final lap kind of in the dirty air of Webber.

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Guys, Lewis posted a 22.4 in the morning practise and that was without the f-duct too. The only logical explanation to this is the one dougskullery has given.

[andrew]

So Hamilton lied to the BBC?!

Was he on different tyres to when he was fastest? Fuel load? Track temperature? If Webber held him up then why is Webber not being investigated along with Petrov?