Is Hamilton desperate or what?

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marcush.
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to be honest ,Hamilton made a bold and decisive move not in any ways a desperate attempt to challenge Webber.
But Mark Webber was the desperate guy putting his championship lead at risk in a situation when he had to salvage some valuable points as the only useful approach in this race.So for him being third or fourth was not really that important but a zero would have been a loss of the championship lead..So he was really playing russian roulette in that corner being stubborn and not accepting
the loss of track position in this corner.It was PURE LUCK the tyre did not jump of the rim ...resulting in a DNF or out of points result.And as said before Hamilton could not avoid Webber was perfectly able to do so.Ignorant..and silly. Not being a tough racer.Both Webber and Vettel lack considerably in their racecraft compared to :Hamilton ,Alonso,Button, Kubica,Barrichello.

ell66
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marcush. wrote:to be honest ,Hamilton made a bold and decisive move not in any ways a desperate attempt to challenge Webber.
But Mark Webber was the desperate guy putting his championship lead at risk in a situation when he had to salvage some valuable points as the only useful approach in this race.So for him being third or fourth was not really that important but a zero would have been a loss of the championship lead..So he was really playing russian roulette in that corner being stubborn and not accepting
the loss of track position in this corner.It was PURE LUCK the tyre did not jump of the rim ...resulting in a DNF or out of points result.And as said before Hamilton could not avoid Webber was perfectly able to do so.Ignorant..and silly. Not being a tough racer.Both Webber and Vettel lack considerably in their racecraft compared to :Hamilton ,Alonso,Button, Kubica,Barrichello.
couldnt say it better myself.

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lolzi wrote:
ringo wrote:I'm also interested in what's going through jenson's mind. He may be more Hamilton like in the last races.
It would be awesome to see an aggressive Jenson Button in action, especially because he doesn't tend to qualify very well. Maybe we will see the Button from Brazil last year again?
sadly jenon just is not fast enough, bar the odd weekend, lewis consistently has him by 3 tenths or more.

lolzi
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ell66 wrote:
lolzi wrote:
ringo wrote:I'm also interested in what's going through jenson's mind. He may be more Hamilton like in the last races.
It would be awesome to see an aggressive Jenson Button in action, especially because he doesn't tend to qualify very well. Maybe we will see the Button from Brazil last year again?
sadly jenon just is not fast enough, bar the odd weekend, lewis consistently has him by 3 tenths or more.
I agree, but I think the Button from Brazil 2009 would probably be Lewis' equal or maybe even better.
Of course, I wouldn't mind if Hamilton did the same, but it just wouldn't wow me as much because we're more used to seeing him being quick and aggressive.

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From the BBC website
Lewis Hamilton says he is desperate to reignite his bid for the 2010 Formula 1 drivers' championship in Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka.

The McLaren driver is one of five men in contention for the title but trails leader Mark Webber by 20 points after crashing out of the last two races.

"I'm doing as much as I can to try and recover," Hamilton, 25, told BBC Sport.

"My plan is not to see how hard my team works and then let them down - and let my family, my friends, or myself down."

The 2008 champion moved top of the standings with victory at the Belgian Grand Prix in August, but he has since experienced a downturn in fortunes.

Hamilton was forced out of the Italian Grand Prix after an opening-lap collision with Felipe Massa as he attempted to pass the Ferrari driver.

Disaster struck again at the Singapore Grand Prix as another overtaking move went wrong, this time Hamilton exiting the race after a coming together with the Red Bull of Webber on lap 36.

The Englishman now finds himself third in the championship on 182 points, with Webber top on 202 points and an in-form Fernando Alonso of Ferrari second on 191.

Hamilton is one point ahead of Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel, while his McLaren team-mate and defending champion Jenson Button is four points further back on 177.

With four races remaining and 25 points for a win, all five drivers remain in the hunt and Hamilton is keen to right the wrongs of Monza and Marina Bay.


I guess that settles it then.

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LOL. Perhaps a subtle reference! Ever wonder if drivers read these inches? Or indeed if they are among us.

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Well I guess we can close thus thread now. Topic settled :)

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gibells wrote:LOL. Perhaps a subtle reference! Ever wonder if drivers read these inches? Or indeed if they are among us.

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http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/3548 ... ore_crash/

LH admits he is to blame for Singapore crash!!!

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This is one of the reasons why I like Hamilton and also why I don't understand the accusations of arrogance. He's one of the few drivers who holds his hands up to his errors - hardly a display of arrogance at all.

It's a shame some other drivers aren't as honest...
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marcush.
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Hamilton definitively reads this ...I´m sure he is.And he´s a smart guy.Taking the blame is the only ways for all to settle the matter now and instantly .Just to make sure no red mist is getting the better of him =D> =D> this guy deserves this title .Now he has to deliver the impossible

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vall wrote:http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/3548 ... ore_crash/

LH admits he is to blame for Singapore crash!!!
So all the Webber knockers must be eating their words, now!

vall
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Just_a_fan wrote:This is one of the reasons why I like Hamilton and also why I don't understand the accusations of arrogance. He's one of the few drivers who holds his hands up to his errors - hardly a display of arrogance at all.

It's a shame some other drivers aren't as honest...
US GP 2007 - LH: "but I am not any driver!" answering to a note by the interviewer that any other driver keep away of the barriers but LH takes them just 5cm away, or something similar. "any driver" is not the best way to refer to your fellow drivers and shows disrespect and arrogance.

Spa 2008. Staring unusually low on the grid easily overtakes many cars because McLaren car is much faster. In the process put some very dangerous, unnecessary moves with a message "Get the f..k out of my way". After the race states that after starting on the back he "hunted THEM down". Again, not the best way to refer to your fellow drivers.

"the monkeys on the back" is also not the best way to call your colleagues

2010 - "I blew Alonso away". For reference, I have not heard Alonso saying he blew Schumacher or any other away...

these and probably many other statements contribute to his image as arrogant.

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Just_a_fan wrote:This is one of the reasons why I like Hamilton and also why I don't understand the accusations of arrogance. He's one of the few drivers who holds his hands up to his errors - hardly a display of arrogance at all.

It's a shame some other drivers aren't as honest...
I wonder why it took Hamilton 10 days to admit his mistake. He allowed Whitmarsh to issue incorrect statements, and also allowed blame to be heaped on Webber. But, I suppose it's better late than never.

Just_a_fan
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vall wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote:This is one of the reasons why I like Hamilton and also why I don't understand the accusations of arrogance. He's one of the few drivers who holds his hands up to his errors - hardly a display of arrogance at all.

It's a shame some other drivers aren't as honest...
US GP 2007 - LH: "but I am not any driver!" answering to a note by the interviewer that any other driver keep away of the barriers but LH takes them just 5cm away, or something similar. "any driver" is not the best way to refer to your fellow drivers and shows disrespect and arrogance.
He's just saying "I'm my own man and do things my way". Which is true. And exactly what I'd expect a winner to say.
Spa 2008. Staring unusually low on the grid easily overtakes many cars because McLaren car is much faster. In the process put some very dangerous, unnecessary moves with a message "Get the f..k out of my way". After the race states that after starting on the back he "hunted THEM down". Again, not the best way to refer to your fellow drivers.
Tosh - hunting them down is exactly what he was doing and exactly what one would expect him to do. Should he have said "I gently mooched up behind them and waited patiently for them to let me by"?
"the monkeys on the back" is also not the best way to call your colleagues
Agreed - poor choice of words.
2010 - "I blew Alonso away". For reference, I have not heard Alonso saying he blew Schumacher or any other away...
Accurate though - he did blow Alonso away considering the relative experiences of the two drivers. Agreed slightly arrogant but absolutely deserves to be IMO in that situation.
these and probably many other statements contribute to his image as arrogant.
"probably many others"? Hardly scientific. You mean you can't think of any others or that you can't find any others but, "hey, why let a lack of facts get in the way?"
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