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Sebastian Vettel has done what he needed to. He stuck his head down, gave it all and won the race. Ferrari's terrible strategy and McLaren's good form here have given him the world championship, well deserved. Lewis Hamilton is second, Jenson Button third.
When you slide sideways because you are on slicks and the track is wet off line, i wouldnt consider that "slowing down"....bomz_za wrote:No team in the running wants to be accused of using team orders at this point surely. Though remember Glock slowing down for Hamilton in Brazil '08... anything is possible.
Vettel himself has told that he will do whats best for the team, but not until the last momentPierce89 wrote:only if Webber wins, if Vettel wins 3rd does the jobsiskue2005 wrote:No, he has to finish 2ndGTO wrote:He doesn't have to win the race, but finish right behind the bulls.
andrew wrote:I'm talking about qualifying and practice. A team may qualify last but they still have fast laps don't they.komninosm wrote:andrew wrote:HRT is still a young and very inexperienced team, as are the drivers. Mistakes of all kinds are bound to happen. Were blue flags waved or were these elusive as is often the case? Were the HRTs on fast laps? If they were then it is absurd that they should pull over to run their lap. All these have to be considered before passing judgement.what are you talking about? Ruin their fast lap? Are you talking about Qualifiers? I think we're talking about races [all year] and about more cars, not just the HRT [though especially them]. Isn't there a blue light in the cockpit anyway?
Also "HRT" and "fast lap" is almost a contradiction in terms
Well only you are talking about practice (who cares about practice anyway). Everyone else is talking about race. Also there are no blue flags in practice or qualifying are there? You still get penalties for impeding others, but are there flags waved?I agree. The RBR flexi wing is too uber. Cheaters-winners. Reminds me of Ferrari. Oh and Renault. And McLaren (more liars than cheaters). Did I miss anyone?segedunum wrote:ringo wrote:Ferrari and mclaren strongest on this circuit. Alonso and Hamilton specifically, lewis in sector 3. Vetel looks like he'll qualify 4rth.I don't know where this is coming from but the Bulls are barely breaking sweat. They have more than enough speed through the corners to make up for any straight line deficit, which let's face it, is all the advantage anyone else has.
The Red Bulls are likely to be 1-2 on the grid but I'd be worried that I wouldn't be third if I was Alonso. I can't see Vettel moving over until the final corner............
Also Glock was not on the same team as Hamilton, so hardly team orders anyway. Just sour grapes from another Ham-hater.ecapox wrote:When you slide sideways because you are on slicks and the track is wet off line, i wouldnt consider that "slowing down"....bomz_za wrote:No team in the running wants to be accused of using team orders at this point surely. Though remember Glock slowing down for Hamilton in Brazil '08... anything is possible.
I think you can still change positions behind a safety car. If you're fast enough (and not chased closely by a third car) you can feign car trouble (or have a small outing. Then the car behind you can overtake you legally. Do you guys not remember the Hamilton-Trulli incident?Shrieker wrote:alvinkhorfire wrote:The swap between Webber and Vettel should not be delayed till the final lap. What if the safety car is deployed near the end of the race? They cannot swap position during the safety car period, right?Terrible dilemma for RBR. Honestly, never thought about that.raymondu999 wrote:What if Alonso blows his engine on the last lap?
Imagine this; going into the final two laps Vettel is leading Webber while Alonso is close in third. All of a sudden, Massa has an 'off' in the final sector where the barriers are close, and a safety car is prompted.
alvinkhorfire definitely has a point there.
had it been sutil, it wouldve been a whole other storykomninosm wrote: Also Glock was not on the same team as Hamilton, so hardly team orders anyway. Just sour grapes from another Ham-hater.
Hamilton is a great driver I'm no hater, just giving an example of how unpredictable F1 can be. No hater's up-in-here...komninosm wrote:Also Glock was not on the same team as Hamilton, so hardly team orders anyway. Just sour grapes from another Ham-hater.ecapox wrote:When you slide sideways because you are on slicks and the track is wet off line, i wouldnt consider that "slowing down"....bomz_za wrote:No team in the running wants to be accused of using team orders at this point surely. Though remember Glock slowing down for Hamilton in Brazil '08... anything is possible.
