I'm supporting not-Alonso

[zeph]

^^^ This.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

He could simply overtake Petrov. Instead he was pointlessly too agressive in plasces where he should be closing the gap. Overtaking is possible in Yas Marina (as Kubica and Hamilton for instance proved). He was expecting Petrov and everyone else to act as his no.2s, and thats why he was waving his fist at Petrov. He just doesnt respect people, and thats shamefull.

Simply overtake? At a Tilke track?

Pointlessly too aggressive? I saw him trying, didnt see any pointlessness though.
Petrov didnt make a mistake. Alonso credited him that.

Kubica proved that when a driver (Kobayshi)is cut infront of(by Vettel) and misses the apex,(which he did) leading onto a straight its easy meat for any driver.
Watch the replay.

Hamiltons overtake I cannot remember so any comment would be shooting in the dark.
Suffice to say I think Hamiltion is a better overtaker than Alonso. But then again there is not much in that either.

[segedunum]

I mean its ok for Hamilton to slate his team over the radio, but not for a driver to vent his frustration at a driver he was stuck behind for 45 odd laps.

Not the same thing at all. Alonso's actions were simply petulant, and the way Ferrari people patted him on the head and said "There, there" after the race shows you just what kind of relationship Alonso has within that team - a sense of entitlement. He tried the same stunt at McLaren and got short shrift there.

Just as Hamilton wouldn't pull over for Alonso at Indy in 2007, when Alonso swept over to the pit wall, Petrov wasn't going to pull over for Alonso. What did he expect?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Petulance is lambasting your team publicly.

Venting frustration after losing a championship and having followed Petrov for 40 laps with Petrov not making a mistake(in itself miraculous) is Human.

[zeph]

JET, this is the not-Alonso thread. They won, let them have their moment.

[segedunum]

In that case I'm not entirely sure what Petrov was supposed to do. That's petulance - thinking you're entitled to something that you have no reason to have. When Hamilton questions his team at least they can do something about it.

[siskue2005]

"There are some pundits in the sport who believe that when a championship is going down to the wire at the final race, then even if you are fighting one of the contenders for the title for a place in the race, you let him by. This was evidently not something that Petrov believed in and, well within the sporting regulations, he defended his position to the end."
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... tment.aspx
haha, Ferrari actually think there should not be anyone else fighting for position in a title deciding race, other than the contenders

[komninosm]

"There are some pundits in the sport who believe that when a championship is going down to the wire at the final race, then even if you are fighting one of the contenders for the title for a place in the race, you let him by. This was evidently not something that Petrov believed in and, well within the sporting regulations, he defended his position to the end."
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... tment.aspx
haha, Ferrari actually think there should not be anyone else fighting for position in a title deciding race, other than the contenders

LOL how self-absorbed. Did they miss the whole thing with Kubica who had nothing to gain as he owed a pit stop slowing down Hamilton and keeping him behind him. Yet Hamilton didn't raise his fist, he kept attacking.
Ferrari and Alonso deserve each other.

[andrew]

The Renaults were pretty much unpassable to be fair but I don't think they were holding anyone up, especially Kubica. The traction they were getting out of the slow corners was just so much better than the cars behind.

As for Hamilton I don't think he ever really threatened Kubica. He was too busy on the radio begging for a pitstop because he wrecked his front left.

The Renaults were just immense yesterday, pity they didn't get a podium for their efforts.

The real spoiler was Alguersuari effectivly pulling over to left Webber past and then blocking Massa. Luckily it didn't help Webber in the grand scheme of things so Red (we won't use team orders) Bull didn't prosper from their interteam team orders.

[Dragonfly]

Lack of class.
That's all I can say about Alonso.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Vettel making crazy gestures classy?

Hamilton and his list of unclassy moments?

Schumacher and his antics?

[myurr]

The Renaults were pretty much unpassable to be fair but I don't think they were holding anyone up, especially Kubica. The traction they were getting out of the slow corners was just so much better than the cars behind.

As for Hamilton I don't think he ever really threatened Kubica. He was too busy on the radio begging for a pitstop because he wrecked his front left.

The Renaults were just immense yesterday, pity they didn't get a podium for their efforts.

The real spoiler was Alguersuari effectivly pulling over to left Webber past and then blocking Massa. Luckily it didn't help Webber in the grand scheme of things so Red (we won't use team orders) Bull didn't prosper from their interteam team orders.

Obviously you didn't watch the race - throughout all the slow speed corners Hamilton was on Kubica's tail, often within a metre or two. Indeed there were times when he was clocked as being 0.2s behind as they crossed the line which shows just how much he troubled him. The problem was that where his car was strong there wasn't enough room to get past, and Kubica always got a good enough drive out of the hairpin and had enough top speed down the straight that Hamilton couldn't pull off the move. And one radio message in, what, twenty laps is not exactly taking up all his time.

Once Kubica pitted, Hamilton's next lap was approx 1.5 seconds faster and the lap after that was the fastest of the race. So yeah, he was being held up massively.

Agree on Alguersuari though - inter-team orders like that are very bad form.

[myurr]

Vettel making crazy gestures classy?

Hamilton and his list of unclassy moments?

Schumacher and his antics?

And all were criticised, and Vettel and Hamilton both appear to have taken the criticism on board and have looked to improve their demeanour throughout the season.

Alonso is petulant and has a sense of entitlement when it comes to winning championship - that can't really be disputed - and the stupid hand gestures directed at Petrov merely reinforce that view of him.

[Richard]

"There are some pundits in the sport who believe that when a championship is going down to the wire at the final race, then even if you are fighting one of the contenders for the title for a place in the race, you let him by. This was evidently not something that Petrov believed in and, well within the sporting regulations, he defended his position to the end."
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... tment.aspx

That is just silly petulance from Ferrari.

[Raptor22]

Vettel making crazy gestures classy?

Hamilton and his list of unclassy moments?

Schumacher and his antics?

the point is to not throw stones in glass houses. Alonso is the worst person the sport has ever seen. He bitvhes andmoans at other dirvers but his own tactics are worse than you'll find in a school yard in the Bronks.

I don;t recall Schumacher ever complaining bitterly about other drivers unsportsmanlike behaviours He gave what he recieved. Alonso loves to give but not recieve. The sport has never had a more selfish, complaining, spoilt little bully of a boy hold the WDC. I trust he never will again.
With Kubica, Vettel, Hulkenberg, Hamilton, Button, Rosberg, Schumacher, all likely to be in competitive cars next year,His chances are looking pretty dull. But I am sure he will simply get Ferrari to threaten another break away championship so the FIA can engineer him a title