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sorry to interrupt the discussion, but does someone here really knows how the 110% rule works? i can find different quotes on the net. one says 110% of the drivers own lap, one says 110% of the fastest lap in general. anyone knows better?
I don't have the rules under my eyes, but it seems obvious to me the 110% are applied from the driver's own lap, otherwise it wouldn't be fair at all, since a red bull in the top ten (for instance) risks to be allways 110% slower than the best lap from a Macca or Renault, honda etc...
i thought about that, but both of them are pretty logical. 10% is a lot. if in bahrain a fast lap is around 1:32 then 110% would be around 1:40 which is a big difference. even super aguri can qualify in that gap. anyone else?
i looked in the fia regulations but it says nothing about this rule.
I can't find the regulation either, but I believe it is in place to prevent a driver from doing a super slow lap back to the pits, possibly interfering with another driver attempting a qualifying time. Remember, Sato screwed up Webber by doing a slow lap.
I don't think qualifying will be changed because FIA wanted a show and they got it; but I myself don't like this system - even during the Winter I had been saying the simultaneous laps would cause some traffic and it did in Bahrain - I remember seeing M.S. pulling in 1 or 2 corners off the perfect trajectory because of Coulthard (if I remember it correctly) being ahead of him and there were some other traffic moments - I want to see as much justice in F1 as possible, but the new qualifying sistem means driver A can be faster than B , but because he (A) has some traffic on his flying laps (you could say he has many laps to try but when 20 cars are out there at the same time it's almost impossible to find even relatively clear track for your lap), B will be ahead of him (and maybe even several places) because of that. That's not right.
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The 107% rule is an old, no longer used rule to eliminate slow cars. If car could not go within 107% of the quickest car, they were asked to go home. That was a long time ago, when F1 had the luxury of a lot more teams at each GP.
So you would have preferred they stuck with the single lap system then?! I was just pointing out that it is not only this new system that you will encounter traffic with, but also the twelve laps in a hour that everyone seems to rate so highly.
I believe that the main argument for end of one hour qualifying lap stuff was that the lower teams did not get enough commercial exposure, the lower teams made a ruckus, So that is why they had 2005 qualifying system, so that the viewers can see everyt eam qualifying so every team get's equal amount of television converage. Pretty gay if you ask me, because I do not know a lot of people who will be rooting for SA or midland during the race.
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The rules on qualifying in the final secition, are that for every 4 laps you do, you get 10kg of fuel. Howver any laps which are outside of 110% of your best time don't count for the fual credits.
manchild wrote:How is this new qualifying format dealing with drivers who are changing engines before qualifying?
I mean, if driver that has changed engine goes into 3rd shoot-out would he be able to fuel-up as the rest of the drivers below 10th position?
Also, since FIA knows that engine is previously changed and driver can’t be in the top 10 at the end, does this regardless on it means that they won’t be allowed to fuel-up like the rest 10+ because they’ve entered 3rd shoot-out?
Thats an interesting situation, never thought of that.
I guess we find out in a few hours time! I wish i was there this time last year I was in Sepang and I must admit it is a great circuit, the downside the locals can't afford tickets so the grandstands stay enpty. This years downside, I am stuck in the UK its 1 degrees centregrate, how things can change