Sauber C30 Ferrari

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H. Zedozil
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myurr wrote:Interesting solution at the rear (from scarbs):
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Sauber C30 blown diffuser, diffuser split under crash structure, rearwing endplates extended down, undercut roll hoop, adj rear wing, (from Scarbs)
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Diesel wrote:
myurr wrote:Interesting solution at the rear (from scarbs):
What's so interesting about it?
To quote scarbs:
Sauber #C30 blown diffuser, diffuser split under crash structure, rearwing endplates extended down, undercut roll hoop, adj rear wing,

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hahaha..we both posted the same thing at the same time..LOL :mrgreen:

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On the side view you can see the exhaust protruding slightly and angled underneath the lower wishbone.

What's interesting about the rear, to me, is the way it tapers to a vertical outlet - something we didn't see last year, or not to that extent anyway. To me it looks like their solution to the aero problem of keeping a push rod rear.

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myurr wrote:It's great that they've got a nice batch of sponsors on the car
But most of them are all the same company TelMex; Telcel and Claro are just brands.

The much vaunted "Another slammer for Sauber as tequila giant signs deal" turns out to be a tiny little sticker on a sidepod inlet.

The fact the (pointless) "Sauber Club 1" logo from last year still hogs so much valuable real estate, is a real concern surely?

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Why would they put the cooling outlet directly infront of the support for the rear wing?

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That extended engine cover "tube" with hot gases from inside looks like RB6 last year's solution that aimed to Blown Diffuser :idea:

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by dau on autosport:
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feynman wrote:
myurr wrote:It's great that they've got a nice batch of sponsors on the car
But most of them are all the same company TelMex; Telcel and Claro are just brands.

The much vaunted "Another slammer for Sauber as tequila giant signs deal" turns out to be a tiny little sticker on a sidepod inlet.

The fact the (pointless) "Sauber Club 1" logo from last year still hogs so much valuable real estate, is a real concern surely?
Perhaps, but it all looks better than last year by a long shot and the team sound confident. They're not going to have the budget of Ferrari, for example, but they sound like they have enough funding for a solid year. If they can keep the momentum they had in the second half of last year then they should do well. The worry, for me, is that the grid looks like they're converging on a single aero solution so a small difference in efficiency or downforce or mechanical grip could produce a larger than usual difference in form due to a particularly tight grid.

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creedbratton wrote:Why would they put the cooling outlet directly infront of the support for the rear wing?
Because they are hungry and want to cook it!

Er, maybe it has aero benefits. (less drag, whatever)
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The sidepods terminate in an interesting fashion. They just seem to be left completely open. Is this because they have decided to route all of their engine cooling this way?

Does someone have an idea how the integrated blown diffuser works - are they blowing over it, or have they found a way to break into it?

EDIT: Also, another high nose with long vertical pillars.
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Is that pullrod at the rear? And another platypus nose a la Merc, albeit with a far less aggressive v-nose.
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imightbewrong wrote:by dau on autosport:
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I prefer the C29....sleeker!!

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raymondu999 wrote:Is that pullrod at the rear? And another platypus nose a la Merc, albeit with a far less aggressive v-nose.
Yes, it is pullrod :)

Edit: I think :D
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