Fairness of the marshalls

[n_anirudh]

Folks, I was surprised at the way the marshals helped Valentino Rossi and not Casey Stoner at Jerez MotoGP event today.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... ection=all

If anyone has seen the video, Rossi was clearly helped by 6 marshals while only one helped Stoner to get his bike push-started.

Although we have seen similar incidents in F1 the last decade where marshals have pushed out one driver onto the track while not doing the same for another, is there a way FIA can enforce "fairness and equality" on track??

Any thoughts.

Thanks

[hollowBallistix]

well I think the fact that the bike was on top of Rossi & Stoner was clear of the crash was the main reason that the marshalls run to him first.

Stoner was more interested in pulling his bike clear & carrying on without any regard to Rossi, and just so happens that Rossi's bike was still running & Stoner needed a push.

As soon as Rossi took off and the Marshals realised that the moaning Aussie needed a shove they helped him.

[n_anirudh]

If you do look at it in perspective, the focus of attention was Rossi and not Stoner.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-ntSkuQA0[/youtube]

Well in the same light, Lewis Hamilton got craned in at 'ring. and MS got pushed back in there in 2004/5? Alonso did not get pushed back onto track at Monza.Also, the safety of the marshals in such an event is paramount although fellow flags slow down drivers much ahead of the accident zone.

[andrew]

Honda have nothing to complain about at all. Stoner's bike was on top of Rossi so it makes sense that the marshalls help the guy that has a bike on him.

Plus, watching the coverage yesterday, I noticed on the replay that Stoner started to walk away from the marshalls with his bike. Not exactly the actions of someone who wants help is it?

Stoner has nothing to complain about regarding the marshalls and his bitchy comment in the garage when Rossi had the decency to apologise was just completely childish. Stoner questioning Rossi's talent was the best laugh I have had in ages! Rossi not enough talent? As if!!

[imightbewrong]

Look at it from another angle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNe6VzhNo0

I think Stoners comments about the marshals is severely exaggerated. What does he expect them to do? Run along with him all the way up the hill? They are safety marshals, not engine starters.

[donskar]

Moderators, please check out this thread: it seems to be broken; maybe some posts have been dropped? I see "fairness" and "marshalls," but still no one screaming that the FIA is biased toward Ferrari. Hmmmmmmm?

[mx_tifoso]

In all fairness Stoner did admit that he didn't expect those one or two guys to push his bike up the hill to get it started, saying "When I looked back I had like one guy pushing me, all the rest were walking back to their posts... What am I supposed to do with that? For sure that guy was trying hard, but with one guy it's impossible - he'd be destroyed before we got over the hill."

More here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90428

It would have been nice to see him continue, but in a twisted way at least this helps the series by not allowing him to dominate each race so far.

[mx_tifoso]

"Following the collision between Rossi and Stoner during the MotoGP race of the Spanish Grand Prix on 3 April in Jerez, the Race Direction has decided to organise a hearing with the Clerk of the Course and the Chief Marshal in order to review the incident and to hear the explanation of the officials in charge.

"Due to the fact that the final decision of the Race Direction will not affect the result of the race, the hearing will be organised on Thursday 28 April in Estoril, Portugal."

FIM to review Jerez marshals' actions - Autosport

[Mysticf1]

Stoner has nothing to complain about regarding the marshalls and his bitchy comment in the garage when Rossi had the decency to apologise was just completely childish. Stoner questioning Rossi's talent was the best laugh I have had in ages! Rossi not enough talent? As if!!

Lol Rossi did drop the bike while trying to pass, thats running out of talent if you ask me. Stoners comment was aimed at getting under Rossi's skin and it worked like a charm, later Rossi commented that "he wasnt trying to pass, but out braked himself" lol come on Val.... the last couple of years Rossi's shine has been deminished by the talent of Lorenzo, hes starting to look desperate IMO. I wont question the Rossi is one of the BEST there has ever been, but i love seeing him under pressure, how they cope is the true mark of a great.

[andrew]

Dear me! Rossi deminished by Lorenzo?! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Lorenzo has got to be one of the luckiest champions ever. Sure he is good but where was the competition? All in hospital! As for Stoner getting under Rossi's skin? I doubt it. Given the scrapes and war of words he had with Sete Gibernau this little skirmish won't even register.

When all is said and done, this is racing and accidents happen. Any rider who says that they would not have gone for the same or similar move is either a liar or has no business being in MotoGP.

Rossi's ride was probably the ride of the race until he found an Aussie wobbling around in his way! Aside from Pedrosa there was hardly any overtaking, just riders falling off and Ewards engine dying.

[tinhouse]

Although we have seen similar incidents in F1 the last decade where marshals have pushed out one driver onto the track while not doing the same for another, is there a way FIA can enforce "fairness and equality" on track??

As far as F1 is concerned it used to be permissable for the marshalls to push a car back onto the track if it had beached in a dangerous place, but the rule was removed a couple of years back. There is no external assistance allowed at all now I think?

The incident you may be thinking of was when they refused the help Alonso (I think it was) in the first year the rule was removed? He was clearly expecting them to give him a push, as they had a certain German driver on previous occasions, but was presumably unaware that they weren't allowed to any more.

Matt.

[Mysticf1]

@Andrew, Rossi didnt go for the gap remember...he out broke himself

Gibernau......nuff said

Lorenzo has beaten a healthy Rossi on the same bike in the same conditions more than once...something that was un thought off a few years ago.

His days of dominance are over, its a proven fact theres only one rider who can win consistently on a ducati

4week break is a pain

[lolzi]

@Andrew, Rossi didnt go for the gap remember...he out broke himself

I just hate it when people break themselves