Spray paint bubbles on Ferrari F150

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Spray paint bubbles on Ferrari F150

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Henning wrote:
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Not a very smooth finish on that part. Not up to the usual F1 quality.
The paint finish on these cars isn't always perfect like one would expect. Especially up close, I was shocked to see how low quality the finish was on all of Ferrari's racing cars cars in the Maranello museum, new or old. With the new cars, perhaps it's because the paint is quite thin and cannot be layered and buffed like a road car due to weight.

I'll have to dig up some photos, but the term "orange peel" would be a kind description.
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slimjim8201 wrote:
Henning wrote:
zgred wrote: Image
Not a very smooth finish on that part. Not up to the usual F1 quality.
The paint finish on these cars isn't always perfect like one would expect. Especially up close, I was shocked to see how low quality the finish was on all of Ferrari's racing cars cars in the Maranello museum, new or old. With the new cars, perhaps it's because the paint is quite thin and cannot be layered and buffed like a road car due to weight.

I'll have to dig up some photos, but the term "orange peel" would be a kind description.
I don´t think that´s orange peel. To me that looks like the paint barely taking the heat from the engine and exhaust.
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i think that pic was taken before the cars were even put together... and i doubt that the bodywork is identical to the one 3 weeks ago... :S

they just didn't buff out the surface probably...
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Goran2812 wrote:i think that pic was taken before the cars were even put together... and i doubt that the bodywork is identical to the one 3 weeks ago... :S

they just didn't buff out the surface probably...
I disagree, that isn't surface that wasn't buffed. Unbuffed would just be "not as shiny as everywhere else" - it certainly wouldn't be worming like it is. Perhaps there was something curing under the paint while it was sprayed.

If you take a look at this image here:

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You can see discoloration of the paintwork in the same area. I would say that it's more likely that Ferrari have hastily manufactured either some heatshielding under this area, or this really is a panel from a race ago (touched up), and was being used as a spare.

And it's not a reflection :lol:
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And lord knows if Ferrari can get this whole paint thing figured out that victories are sure to follow.

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bhallg2k wrote:And lord knows if Ferrari can get this whole paint thing figured out that victories are sure to follow.
:lol:
It's also distorting their aerodynamics.

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Is it possible that there's some sort of clear film on the part to protect it in transit from the factory that has yet to be removed when this photo was taken?
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extreme heat causing the paint to "bubble".
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Hangaku wrote:
I disagree, that isn't surface that wasn't buffed. Unbuffed would just be "not as shiny as everywhere else" - it certainly wouldn't be worming like it is. Perhaps there was something curing under the paint while it was sprayed.

You can see discoloration of the paintwork in the same area. I would say that it's more likely that Ferrari have hastily manufactured either some heatshielding under this area, or this really is a panel from a race ago (touched up), and was being used as a spare.

And it's not a reflection :lol:
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so, when a surface is being painted with a spray gun, this is what you get after applying the paint...

like someone said, orange peel...

after that you need to buff out the surface using a technique called wet sanding if i'm not mistaken. by doing that the surface remains colored but smooth, shiny and with a certain level of gloss. after the colored surface has dried you can than apply a layer of lacquer, wait for it to dry,and then wet sand it again until you get the desired level of gloss you want. I've watched many guitars built and colored that way, and by watching all those car shows on Discovery and National Geographic :lol: the same applies for car surfaces!

i'm even more convinced now that they probably just didn't have time to make the surface look all nice and shiny and that's what we're seeing here...
it my look "wormy" to you, but it's orange peel for sure...

and sorry, i can't see any discoloration on that photo :(
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Goran2812 wrote:Image

so, when a surface is being painted with a spray gun, this is what you get after applying the paint...
No, that's the effect you get when you apply too much paint with a spray gun.

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yeah,but that can be wet sanded and turned into a smooth surface...

every low-to middle class vehicle I've ever seen doesn't have a totally smooth surface like it should have... no "final finish" on those cars and they look like an orange peel,but not that extreme as shown in the pic...
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It´s not orange peel.
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The paint applied to an F1 car is so thin, I don't reckon it CAN orange peel, let alone wet and dry sand it down - you'd be left with a hole in your bodywork. Some say that their paint is only microns thick.
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HampusA wrote:It´s not orange peel.
ok it's not.. what ever you say boss
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Goran2812 wrote:
HampusA wrote:It´s not orange peel.
ok it's not.. what ever you say boss
Trust me, it´s not.

Orange peel doesn´t look like that or is that irregular over the paint. This is heat causing the paint to bubble up. That´s why it´s alot of severe "bubbles" in one area but less in some other areas of the part.

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