Petition on clarification of rule 3.15(flexible bodywork)

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

With there being a certain amount of fervour regards the flexible front end of the RB7, from your truly in particular (:twisted:) I have been ably pointed into making a petition(thanks gridwalker) that will be forwarded on to the FIA.

What I want to achieve by doing this is to seek clarification on rule 3.15 which forbids any flexing bodywork. It goes further to say if there is even a hint of flex either visible or suspected, further tests will be carried out.
There are many examples of the RB7 flexing. here are a few.



So please sign the petition for a clarification of the rule, so as to end the bickering. You can do so here http://joao.epetitions.net/. Feel free to forward it on to any other F1 site so as to get a better repsonse, or even friends family and even pets!

Kind regards to all at F1 technical,
JohnsonsEvilTwin

[Just_a_fan]

I'm a bit ambivalent on this. In some ways I agree with your stance, but then I also respect Red Bull's ability to innovate a way of both meeting and breaking the rules at one and the same time.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

I'm a bit ambivalent on this. In some ways I agree with your stance, but then I also respect Red Bull's ability to innovate a way of both meeting and breaking the rules at one and the same time.

Entirely up to you. For me its very clear, and I guess for others it will be too.

Meeting 3.17 doesnt mean it passes 3.15 just so as I'm clear J_A_F.
This is the crux of my gripe.

[HampusA]

I have no problems with Flexing wings, i just have a problem with the rules, the rules specifically put in place to prevent flexible wings is just being ignored by FIA.
Instead they have a lousy tests that is somewhat laughable.

Clarification FIA, either flexible wings are legal (remove the FIA test)
Or like it is now, flexible wings is illegal (make better tests.)

Clarification FIA..

[HampusA]

Just found a really good video showcasing the flexible front wing.

Top speed it´s lower to the ground but watch as the car enters the braking zone, you can see the wing raises itself substantially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ktZ4jF6Pc&NR=1

[aral]

Why on earth would some forum members want to send a petition to the FIA over their rules and regulations?
The wings are legal, and I am sure that if any of the teams felt that they needed clarification, they are fully capable of seeking this "clarification", themselves.
Just because you/we do not understand the rules, is no reason to send petitions to FIA.

[HampusA]

Gilgen, have you read the rules?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Why on earth would some forum members want to send a petition to the FIA over their rules and regulations?
The wings are legal, and I am sure that if any of the teams felt that they needed clarification, they are fully capable of seeking this "clarification", themselves.
Just because you/we do not understand the rules, is no reason to send petitions to FIA.

Gilgen

If you want reasons, read the flexing wing thread. But in a nutshell, if the wing wasnt flexing we wouldnt have a thread, teams wouldnt be complaining, and this petition wouldnt exist.

So it flexes yes?

And the FIA have this (3.15) in place which forbodes flexing body work, yes?

Now I ask you, is there a reason not to ask the FIA for clarification?

[Giblet]

I'm ont exactly sure what to do here. I understand the idea behind the petition but other teams have already protested, and nothing has changed.

I also think it takes the seriousness out of what petitions are really for. They are a political tool to rally the public, not slap a team for doing what every team is jealous they never figured out. It's not what petitions are for IMO. We can't start a petition every time a referee makes a bad call, a rule is not liked, or Alonso needs his eyebrows trimmed.

In Canada they recently wanted to start metering out internet to 25gb a month, This was unacceptable to us and we used an online petition to gather over 300,000 signatures and got the damn bill reversed. I strongly disagree with using petitions for trivial things when it comes scope of real importance.

I don't agree with this, but at the same time am just one man's opinion.

I will lock the topic, let it fall off the front page, and we can let Tomba decide what he wants with this thread. The number of reports also tells me that I might be doing the right thing.

[Steven]

Agreed with thread locking.
People wanting to sign the petition can (link in original post).

People willing to discuss flexing wings can as well:
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