Real merc logo on the MGP W02?

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HampusA wrote:You would think the pictures with lines showing the logo sticking out or the redflections would be enough.. Guess not.
Nah, speculating about magic paint that makes the reflection look right from all angles, with all light sources is *way* more fun apparently. Maybe next they'll come up with paint that makes cars asymetrical.

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LOL :)
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Interesting...Although we have reasearched the paint story and they never made weight by sanding off the paint..One of those stories that won't go away.
Now we know why the Merc is slow....all the disturbance of the air by that logo. :lol:
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The story about the paint being sanded off is false? Just learned that in a video but I guess the video could be wrong.

Where was this debunked on F1T? I wanna read :)
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HampusA wrote:You would think the pictures with lines showing the logo sticking out or the redflections would be enough.. Guess not.
A lot of old folks on this forum so until the internet gets lens compensation and touch-a-vision they'all always be 2nd guessing the obvious photos. :lol:

I know the 2010 logo was definitely painted on though.
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It would make absolutely no sense having a real logo.

That logo is painted on. And whoever pointed out that they painted the black background then stuck the logo back on I believe is wrong. Although it seems to show the logo being stuck back on, if you see the way they used tape to hold it in place I reckon they ere going to use it as a template or guide for a different colour shadow (to compliment the black).

I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a sport where 0.05seconds could be the difference between a position, a logo that sticks out by more than 3 or 4 mm would actually ever be allowed on a car. Think of the useless weight, the effect on aero and everything. There is no way in hell that the logo is real ^^.

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MeowMix wrote:It would make absolutely no sense having a real logo.

That logo is painted on. And whoever pointed out that they painted the black background then stuck the logo back on I believe is wrong. Although it seems to show the logo being stuck back on, if you see the way they used tape to hold it in place I reckon they ere going to use it as a template or guide for a different colour shadow (to compliment the black).

I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a sport where 0.05seconds could be the difference between a position, a logo that sticks out by more than 3 or 4 mm would actually ever be allowed on a car. Think of the useless weight, the effect on aero and everything. There is no way in hell that the logo is real ^^.

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I find it incredibly hard to believe that when there's video & photo evidence showing that the logo is an actual badge they stick on the car people can still come up with way's to dismiss what it is.

There would be no need to use a badge like that to use it as a template to paint on another colour, masking tape templates generated on some graphics software would be used, not a bloody badge, especially as the badge is would be covering the are they require to paint to give any contrast against the black already laid down.

Weight an issue ? really ? considering the car without fuel & ballast is around 150kg lighter than the required minimum weight limit, this badge is not going to be an issue.

And as for the effect on aero, it's probably so small it's insignificant.

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i'm sure he's kidding :)
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n smikle wrote:
HampusA wrote:You would think the pictures with lines showing the logo sticking out or the redflections would be enough.. Guess not.
A lot of old folks on this forum so until the internet gets lens compensation and touch-a-vision they'all always be 2nd guessing the obvious photos. :lol:

I know the 2010 logo was definitely painted on though.
:)

i wonder why they decided to go with a more real one this year?
I would probably embed it instead like Ferrari does.
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This is the race when according to Alfred Neubauer in his book "Männer, Frauen und Motoren" the Silver Arrows legend was born as the Mercedes-Benz cars were stripped of their white paint to clear the 750 kg weight limit. it is now established that the 1934 race was in fact run as a Formula Libre event with no weight limits and that Neubauer's story is DEFINITELY fictous.
That is from Leif Snellmans excellent site http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/main.htm
Believing the story I stumbled into a debate on the subject with some knowledgeable historians and in the end it became clear that I was wrong and the story is just one of those myths. I think I have video somewhere of that race and the the '34 season and it shows they were painted...It's a great story though
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MeowMix wrote:It would make absolutely no sense having a real logo.

That logo is painted on. And whoever pointed out that they painted the black background then stuck the logo back on I believe is wrong. Although it seems to show the logo being stuck back on, if you see the way they used tape to hold it in place I reckon they ere going to use it as a template or guide for a different colour shadow (to compliment the black).

I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a sport where 0.05seconds could be the difference between a position, a logo that sticks out by more than 3 or 4 mm would actually ever be allowed on a car. Think of the useless weight, the effect on aero and everything. There is no way in hell that the logo is real ^^.

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BAR Honda had also a real Honda badge on the nose tip and the Mercedes logo seems also to be real but i have no official confirm on this .
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A Tv program , "Inside Grand Prix " aired this week here in South Africa , showed the emblem being applied on the nose. It clearly was not a flat decal but a solid 3 dimensional shaped logo, about 3mm thick - gaps between outer ring and star are open. Could not discern the material , could be die cast zinc but more likely plastic with chrome finish.

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I can´t even believe it´s still getting discussed ;)
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1) Is the shape of the nose correct for keeping the air attached in the location of the emblem? You are not going to find any NACA foil shapes with this shape of nose area. I am going to assume the flow is detached in the area of the emblem and that the aero group approved the location of the raised emblem.

2) What would be the most effective way to remove the acrylic urethane coating after each race?

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