Williams/Virgin behind EBD off throttle ban.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

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As such you are speculating on something that has no precedent. Paranoia is another word that has been used to describe such instances....

And here comes the insults, it is not very becoming you know.

As unbecoming as "Naive"?? Why X, if you are so sensitive to such "insults" perhaps you should insult in the first place.
Reminds me of the old "cant stand the heat, stay out the kitchen"

I digress! Your link is tenuous at best X, you are bypassing so many more important factors just to say Mercedes are the ones behind this. I have issued you with verifiable information to go with my opinion, you offer only opinion with NO precedent.

Your knowledge of the inner workings of Mercedes and how "people can feel compelled to do the strangest things" is most interesting as it is entertaining. I guess us mere mortals shouldn't heed established and highly respected publications such as AMuS and should blindly follow your guess work as a more accurate measure of whats going on?

Its not like you ever predicted the W02 was a donkey, right?

[Rob01]

It's more of an effort to level the playing field for the smaller teams. FIA is just helping out the second tier.

[Ferraripilot]

Whiting did this to get Red Bull. He calls it a type of moveable aero device which I believe makes perfect sense. Of course other teams are going to be all for it since it was Red Bull who have essentially perfected and invented the technology in the first place. Mark my words that someone else will be on pole once this is in play.

[Rob01]

FIA knew last year what Red Bull was doing. They spout off about budget caps and curtailing spending only to reverse rules and cause the big boys to over spend.

[Ferraripilot]

FIA knew last year what Red Bull was doing. They spout off about budget caps and curtailing spending only to reverse rules and cause the big boys to over spend.

That appears to be the case, but we also have no idea how long Whiting has had this in the cards as a potential change. I can't imagine Turkey was the first time any of the top teams heard of this, but rather after Turkey was the first time they heard of it actually being put in play which didn't give teams enough time to make the necessary changes to make it a safe change and possibly make clarifications regarding the rule itself as we all know certain words and statements are probably being interpreted differently.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Charlie Whiting: we're trying to stop "hot blowing" because situation has advanced more and more. Meeting proposed for June 16

For X, this is clearly: "Fat Norby sat on me, twisted my arm and forced me to scrap Mercedes millions worth of investment. He also branded me with the mark of the devil...(exposes brandished buttock complete with 3 pointed star markings)"

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Seems a winner may be expected sooner rather than later...Humble pie at the ready!

Peter Windsor has the low down...

One team may not use (hot and/or cold)blown diffuser in race and then protest the others..

And....

Charlie: 9 or 10 teams are probably running (potentially) illegal blown exhaust systems

Fluid situation here....constantly evolving.

[Ferraripilot]

Whiting just had a meeting regarding the EBDs after practice.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2600 ... e-mapping/


Interesting how MB is mentioned specifically.... am I reading it right that they are saying MB will benefit from the BAN or lose benefit if it is banned?? Confusing wording there.

[Rob01]

He is saying they will be HURT by the ban.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

It is believed Mercedes GP is one team gaining a particularly benefit from the concept, which could soon be banned permanently.

[andrew]

It is saying that Mercedes are likely to have a huge benefit from using the EBD, but without seeing the device in action, determining for definite who will get an actual advantage and what that advantage is is impossible (for us armchair enthusiasts at least).

[xpensive]

MrE's old spannerman is only trying to protect the source of the "clarification", MGP is not even close to have an EBD.

Just look at the pictures of the W02 rear end, their xhaust is rudimentary in comparison with RBR.

[Ferraripilot]

Just look at the pictures of the W02 rear end, their xhaust is rudimentary in comparison with RBR.

I agree there which is why I see MB not being affected nearly as much as RB/Mcl/Ferrari. Especially RB though as their entire car concept wraps around the rake they are able to run.

[beelsebob]

So, Apparently Whiting has said to the teams running EBDs that he wouldn't be surprised if Williams or Virgin protested, and he wouldn't have any clue what the stewards would say if the protest were lodged. I sense a nudge nudge wink wink here.

Who wants to bet how many teams will actually run without them?

[Ferraripilot]

So, Apparently Whiting has said to the teams running EBDs that he wouldn't be surprised if Williams or Virgin protested, and he wouldn't have any clue what the stewards would say if the protest were lodged. I sense a nudge nudge wink wink here.

Who wants to bet how many teams will actually run without them?

That's exactly what this is. Charlie wants the other teams to be the bad guy and not the Fia. Charlie can then simply say, "hey, I was ok with delaying it or whatever, it was these other yahoos who went to the stewarts and THEY knocked you fellows down".

Now comes the question of will teams buy into this bluff and not run the system or face a team contention and possibly be disqualified?