Monaco GP 2011 - Monte Carlo

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Tozza Mazza wrote:Any thoughts on Hamilton calling the stewards racist. Not sure if he was joking too. He needs to control what he says.

Missed that. Did he really? :shock:

Thought it was hilarious enough when he was crying that Massa turned in on him. On the hairpin. Even Brundle and Coulthard thought that was over the top..
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Tozza Mazza wrote:Any thoughts on Hamilton calling the stewards racist. Not sure if he was joking too. He needs to control what he says.
When did he say that? source?
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Gerhard Berger wrote: Brakes stop the car. They don't make you slide into people. He hit Maldonado anyway so don't know how it would be "much worse".
Well, you cannot steer fully when on the brakes, so to stop enoguh you have to go pretty much forward. The space was not there to stop doing so so he would have hit.
Maldonado couldn't give more space otherwise he would have gone off line (onto the marbles) and slid into the barriers.


There was space enough to do so, it didnt even need that much space. Maldonado shouldnt just turn in.
If Hamilton wants to make a pass in that corner, he needs to be side by side with the driver he's passing.


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HampusA wrote:You canยดt outbrake another person because the guy on the outside will try to outbreak you which he can because his radius into the corner is much bigger.
Outside guy is on the limit of taken the corner.
And your point here is?
Inside guy on marbles and smaller radius can impossibly brake at the same place as the outside guy and expect to take the corner as normal.
Thatยดs A O in overtaking.
You have actually said nothing at all, I asked you how you have to overtake then. Since most of the overtakes come in braking zones where the overtaking guy is on the inside you have to explain it to me how they do that if that isnt outbraking. The guy on the inside has the advantage of the apex, plus he will brake a bit later. It is just basic knowledge, in our world that is.
He missed his braking point and got lucky that Kamui noticed it.
I personally would have turned right into Webber.
This is ridiculous. As I said before, if he just missed his braking point, what the hell is he doing in the middle of the track? Apart from that, the braking point is on top of the hill, jsut before you go down, he started braking there. You have to explain to me how driving way off line and braking at the braking point is 'missing your braking point'
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They let the teams to change their rear wing, of course they are allowed to change the tire!

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To deny that Vettel is great is silly. But he definitely cut a deal with Lady Luck, it is unbelievable.

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F1 forum. hang on. maybe i made it sound bad.
Hamilton was asked by a journalist 'Why do you always get penalised'
He responded by saying 'Maybe it's cos I'm black'.
He said it in a way where I'm not even sure he was joking. He was absolutely incensed.

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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. H.P.Lovecraft

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andartop wrote:I don't think any rule needs to be changed. They simply should have ended the race when the red flag came out with 72 out of 78 laps completed.
I do not even know why the race was restarted, the rules state that if the race is red flagged when over 75% of the race distance is completed, the race will not be continued. This was far, far over this 75%

I liked it when they restarted the race, would have added some action, if they werent allowed to change tires that is. It was ridiculous that they restarted that race, nothing big would really have happened when everyone is on new tires.
LionKing wrote:They let the teams to change their rear wing, of course they are allowed to change the tire!
Damage is way different then tires. They are allowed to change damaged parts in parc ferme too, but not the tires(for the Q3 runners).
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I think Vettel fully deserved the win. Intelligence my friends, or should I say common sense. It was obvious that in Monaco you have to get rid of one type of tyre before the brown stuff hits the fans just because of the mere unpredictability of the place. A real shame the brains at Mclaren just didn't take this into account for Q3 and the race!

You can't really praise Vettel any more than this now. The man used smarts to win this one. Sure he had luck on his side, but as soon as he got the covetted track position with no mandatory stops to do, he knew that there was only one thing to do: STAY OUT and LOCK IT DOWN!
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Tozza Mazza wrote:F1 forum. hang on. maybe i made it sound bad.
Hamilton was asked by a journalist 'Why do you always get penalised'
He responded by saying 'Maybe it's cos I'm black'.
He said it in a way where I'm not even sure he was joking. He was absolutely incensed.
According to someone on another forum, he actually said "maybe it's because I'm black, as Ali G would say..." and then snickered.

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Tozza Mazza wrote:F1 forum. hang on. maybe i made it sound bad.
Hamilton was asked by a journalist 'Why do you always get penalised'
He responded by saying 'Maybe it's cos I'm black'.
He said it in a way where I'm not even sure he was joking. He was absolutely incensed.
He was asked a question and he answered and that was a joke.

Sadly it may be true... lol.. OK lets keep to the car race.
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If it weren't for stupid regulations and other drivers that refuse to give space, McLaren would win all races. If only those norms and persons disappeared!

McLaren is taking too long to add a disintegrator ray in front of Hamilton's car and retire from F1.

They are being robbed of their well deserved championship by people that insists on going too fast and having tactics that actually work.

I think all Hamilton fans should unite (that is, the whole world) and start a donation campaign to buy Monaco, to acquire the whole principality, so Lewis can race alone and win. We could give him a helmet studded with diamonds (...wait, has that already been done?)

The disintegrator ray gun is a no brainer. That way Hamilton could pass on the inside in Monaco (Maldonado would be dust by now) and Button wouldn't have to obey those regulations that stand between him and SURE victory.

Darn regulations! Darn drivers that doesn't move away when Hamilton implies that he will crash them if they don't let him pass! Darn F1!

Lewis deserves to win, he's the best driver that has ever been or will be. He has said so, I believe him.

Vettel deserves nothing, he can barely drive and those Red Bull cars are disgraces on wheels. How unjust is them winning by the simple (duh!) method of going faster. That is so much NOT funny!

Besides, that Vettel guy (he should be called Rovettel, if you ask me. He's a robber!) is always laughing and making jokes and having a good time! How horrible is THAT? On the other hand, Lewis has the gravitas and bad temper that only a GENIUS has. Who has seen a GENIUS that laughs? Not in my neighborhood.

Look, GENIUSES gives you slight smiles while they look to the floor between his feet implying how GENIAL they are. I tell you, it's easy to differentiate between true GENIUS and that thing Vettel has that ONLY serves him to make blindingly fast laps.

What's the merit of winning a race if you do it by the simple and plain procedure of going faster? Nah, a true win is obtained by GENIUS.

Just because Hamilton ignored the advice of his engineers and did whatever he wanted during qualy and started in a horrible position and then crashed with half the world during the race does he deserve to lose? Never!

Doesn't he deserves at least that? To win in Monaco from 15th place or something like that? He is a GENIUS. How does people expect him to understand all that blah, blah, blah about tuning and why should he obey the plans of lesser persons?

Lewis, we love you, we want a son from you!
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Sure he had the strategy and the safety cars, but he managed to keep it in one piece, which many others have failed. While keeping a charging Alonso and Button at bay. No small feat. Hats off to Vettel again, this time for not breaking under the pressure. Being on pole also certainly helped, and that was a very good lap indeed..
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I doubt there is any hint of truth behind Hamilton's race joke.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/05/29/f ... ties-joke/

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Hamilton was like Rambo! Kicking ass and taking names! great TV.
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