Monaco GP 2011 - Monte Carlo

[donskar]

Good race, though the red flag restart was a little disconcerting, the result was well-deserved. Vettel drove very well and deserved to win -- but so did Alonso and Button. I'd have been happy with any 1-2-3 order. Hamilton had a very uneven race. Starting so far back (undeservedly) may have put too much pressure on him. He was responsible for one incident, and he was justly punished. NOT the beginning of aa resurgence for Ferrari, but Alonso came through with a great result when they needed it badly.

"Take away" from the race: Newey/Vettel/RBR are the "Dream Team" of this year, and maybe of the decade.

PS: Hamilton's statements -- like M Schu's overly aggressive driving style -- may end up tarnishing his eventual reputation. His manager needs to get him some media training ASAP.

[CHT]

Really? Button made up 20 seconds on him, are you saying he wouldn't have made up 25, and then gained track position when Vettel stopped for softs? As far as I'm concerned, it was button that drove flawlessly, and got hamstrung by Vettel getting 2 free pit stops.

of course you would expect 3 stopper Button on fresh super soft tyres to gain 20 seconds on a 1 stopper vettel whos objective after the 1st SC was to preserve his tyres to the finish line.

[beelsebob]

Really? Button made up 20 seconds on him, are you saying he wouldn't have made up 25, and then gained track position when Vettel stopped for softs? As far as I'm concerned, it was button that drove flawlessly, and got hamstrung by Vettel getting 2 free pit stops.

of course you would expect 3 stopper Button on fresh super soft tyres to gain 20 seconds on a 1 stopper vettel whos objective after the 1st SC was to preserve his tyres to the finish line.

Except that the radio messages clearly revealed that they were 2 stopping at that point. It's not like Vettel was preserving his tyres, Button just had the pace on him.

[lgmars]

Terrible race. We were robbed of a great race by stupid regulations. Red Bull made nothing but mistakes today and won the race, Button drove a faultless race and recieved the biggest penalty from the safety cars. Alonso was probably my driver of the day, he 100% deserved the victory over Vettel.

This is funny. Out of the top three, who didn't drive a faultless race? Driving-wise it's undoubtedly Vettel who deserves the win for driving 50+ laps on soft compound, under pressure from Button then Alonso. Had it not been RBR's pit screw-up, it would have been a plain and simple pole-to-win for SV.

Really? Button made up 20 seconds on him, are you saying he wouldn't have made up 25, and then gained track position when Vettel stopped for softs? As far as I'm concerned, it was button that drove flawlessly, and got hamstrung by Vettel getting 2 free pit stops.

I think my question was already ask in my first post and you didn't answer it : out of the top three, who didn't drive a faultless race?

Vettel would have kept his position after first pit stop if RBR's pit crew hadn't screwed up. Then it would be Button on super soft behind Vettel on soft. It would be easy mode for Vettel to hold Button up and nullify his tire advantage.

[Shrieker]

The guys in front of him (Massa,Alonso and Weber) always give trouble to Lewis when he's faster than them and tries to overtake. Especially Massa the master rear gunner won't blink in squeezing Hamilton first chance he gets. Just look at Bahrain and Monza last season...

Nuff said. It was Lewis' fault though that he gave him that chance.


And anyone who says Hamilton was to blame for the incident with Maldonado is terribly biased. According to that logic, it's totally ok to turn towards someone who is alongside you.

If it had been someone else, it was going to be Maldonado the rookie's fault. But since it's Hamilton the desperate, the berserk, the lunatic, it's his fault. How technical.

[myurr]

Vettel was beaten on track by Button. Even before his slow stop Button had closed the gap on his outlap to 19.9 seconds and took further time out of him on the next lap. The first safety car of the weekend eliminated his closest competitor from having a shot at all in the race, the second gave him track position back over Button, the third gave him a free pit stop just when his tyres were scheduled to disintegrate. Yes he drove a clean race with reasonable pace, but Vettel was incredibly lucky to win that race. Whilst we'll never know, had any one of those safety cars not happened then it would have been unlikely that he would have won.

[myurr]

PS: Hamilton's statements -- like M Schu's overly aggressive driving style -- may end up tarnishing his eventual reputation. His manager needs to get him some media training ASAP.

Or people need to get over the traditional british sense of humour and the fact that some drivers aren't robots and have emotions.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Any thoughts on Hamilton calling the stewards racist. Not sure if he was joking too. He needs to control what he says.

Why does he need to control what he says, he's free to say what he likes, as are we all.

If this 'bringing the sport in to disrepute' stuff comes up again I think he should stand against it. Max Mosley didn't get slapped with it when he was caught with n**i p*********s.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Brakes stop the car. They don't make you slide into people. He hit Maldonado anyway so don't know how it would be "much worse".

Well, you cannot steer fully when on the brakes, so to stop enoguh you have to go pretty much forward. The space was not there to stop doing so so he would have hit.

Can you explain how the brakes are connected to the steering column?

[ringo]

Vettel man of the race or Alonso.
Vettel played it smart and recovered well from the pitstop.

Button had it in the bag, it wasn't the SC that messed him up either, as he still was in the fight.
What messed him up was his conservatism. Not once did he try to attack Vettel.

He was 1.9s a lap faster and did nothing. Alonso was fighting tooth and nail while Button sat back waiting for the race to come to him.

Complete waste of points and free giveaway to Vettel.

[i70q7m7ghw]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/05/29/f ... ties-joke/

Can't wait for Lewis to actually do as he promises and just keep his mouth shut.

Why should he keep his mouth shut? Just because you don't like what he says? He's free to say what he likes. Maybe we shouldn't even interview drivers anymore, perhaps we should introduce a regulation where drivers can't talk anymore?

[Poleman]

Can you explain how the brakes are connected to the steering column?

I dont think he means that they are connected physically.Try slamming your brakes and make a full left or right lock on your steering wheel.I guess what hes trying to say is that u get a slide as a cosequence.

[ell66]

If it weren't for stupid regulations and other drivers that refuse to give space, McLaren would win all races. If only those norms and persons disappeared!

McLaren is taking too long to add a disintegrator ray in front of Hamilton's car and retire from F1.

They are being robbed of their well deserved championship by people that insists on going too fast and having tactics that actually work.

I think all Hamilton fans should unite (that is, the whole world) and start a donation campaign to buy Monaco, to acquire the whole principality, so Lewis can race alone and win. We could give him a helmet studded with diamonds (...wait, has that already been done?)

The disintegrator ray gun is a no brainer. That way Hamilton could pass on the inside in Monaco (Maldonado would be dust by now) and Button wouldn't have to obey those regulations that stand between him and SURE victory.

Darn regulations! Darn drivers that doesn't move away when Hamilton implies that he will crash them if they don't let him pass! Darn F1!

Lewis deserves to win, he's the best driver that has ever been or will be. He has said so, I believe him.

Vettel deserves nothing, he can barely drive and those Red Bull cars are disgraces on wheels. How unjust is them winning by the simple (duh!) method of going faster. That is so much NOT funny!

Besides, that Vettel guy (he should be called Rovettel, if you ask me. He's a robber!) is always laughing and making jokes and having a good time! How horrible is THAT? On the other hand, Lewis has the gravitas and bad temper that only a GENIUS has. Who has seen a GENIUS that laughs? Not in my neighborhood.

Look, GENIUSES gives you slight smiles while they look to the floor between his feet implying how GENIAL they are. I tell you, it's easy to differentiate between true GENIUS and that thing Vettel has that ONLY serves him to make blindingly fast laps.

What's the merit of winning a race if you do it by the simple and plain procedure of going faster? Nah, a true win is obtained by GENIUS.

Just because Hamilton ignored the advice of his engineers and did whatever he wanted during qualy and started in a horrible position and then crashed with half the world during the race does he deserve to lose? Never!

Doesn't he deserves at least that? To win in Monaco from 15th place or something like that? He is a GENIUS. How does people expect him to understand all that blah, blah, blah about tuning and why should he obey the plans of lesser persons?

Lewis, we love you, we want a son from you!

wow, so much fail in one post. mind = blown!
lol at you thinking it was lewi ignoring the engineers in qually. How about you get your facts straight?!

[i70q7m7ghw]

Can you explain how the brakes are connected to the steering column?

I dont think he means that they are connected physically.Try slamming your brakes and make a full left or right lock on your steering wheel.Even on your daily car.You will have your answer.

It'll turn to full lock, just understeer like hell. I'm sure that's what he meant, he should just be clearer.

[Poleman]

Can you explain how the brakes are connected to the steering column?

I dont think he means that they are connected physically.Try slamming your brakes and make a full left or right lock on your steering wheel.Even on your daily car.You will have your answer.

It'll turn to full lock, just understeer like hell. I'm sure that's what he meant, he should just be clearer.

Yes,exactly i edited my above post as well!