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Quite right Ringo, I think it's a simple example of a fast guy finding himself down on the grid at the worst track for overtaking. I think that the crash with Nado was a racing incident. The one with Massa was very close but I put the majority of the blame on Lewis.ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
I believe Massa would not have intentionally wanted to go wide. Here is some words from Massa that supports my opinion.wrigs wrote:This angle wasn't shown on the FOM TV broadcast I think:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzyHNoWP4uc[/youtube]
As you can see, Massa actually lets off the throttle in the tunnel and there is absolutely no way you can say that anyone but Massa was responsible for that accident.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm talking about Massa crashing in the tunnel.
Speaking of maturity, I agree that Hamilton needs to work on that. In fact, I remembered that he was more matured minded in his 1st 2 years. He should look up to the 2011 version of Button or Vettel and take notes.Tazio wrote: I still hold to my contention I've held since 2007 The Boss still has some maturing to do. He is getting there, and I appreciate the guys craft for exactly what it is worth, which is a lot.
I don't agree that he has more maturing to do.Tazio wrote:Quite right Ringo, I think it's a simple example of a fast guy finding himself down on the grid at the worst track for overtaking. I think that the crash with Nado was a racing incident. The one with Massa was very close but I put the majority of the blame on Lewis.ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
As good as the boss is at overtaking other pilots should not feel obliged to give him a wide berth (unless they are back markers). At Monaco It means taking some chances. Some of these guys are really worried about safety. At any rate he only said in stronger language, the same thing Fred said a while back, when he questioned whether F1 was a sport anymore.
All things considered starting 9th at Monaco and finishing 6th is not a catastrophe.
I still hold to my contention I've held since 2007 The Boss still has some maturing to do. He is getting there, and I appreciate the guys craft for exactly what it is worth, which is a lot.
Lewis might be upset by Vettel equaling his record of 15 career wins at the prestigious Monaco GP.Belatti wrote:Maybe he was a bit too agresive in this one. But isnt that what the majority of the audience wants to see? If nothing happens then they complain about F1 being boring...
ringo wrote: Other drivers simply don't go as far spritually on the track.
They have pretty cheap medication for that kind of crazy. Funniest thing I've ever read on this site, that's some serious delusional love right there. I knew you really liked Lewis, but that's just plain ridiculous. "Spiritually"? Really? He's a race car driver, a great one I'll give you that, but there's nothing spiritual about anything he does. I sincerely hope that's tongue in cheek. AH! Lost in translation. My apologies! You're right, Lewis goes for it every time. Only other driver I can say that does that is Alonso but he doesn't go for it like Lewis does.ringo wrote:I mean by spirited driving kind of sense. Never heard the phrase before?
He drives with more energy, more spirit, capice?
Actually I recognised Hamilton's greatness right out of the box. Don't confuse my critique with others. I was really addressing everyone that said in 2007 "Look how good he is now Just wait untill he matures". I think he is every bit as good as he was when he broke in. And you are right when you say "hate the game", because it has changed so dramatically over the last few seasons It's really kind of hard to size up drivers.ringo wrote:I don't agree that he has more maturing to do.Tazio wrote:Quite right Ringo, I think it's a simple example of a fast guy finding himself down on the grid at the worst track for overtaking. I think that the crash with Nado was a racing incident. The one with Massa was very close but I put the majority of the blame on Lewis.ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
As good as the boss is at overtaking other pilots should not feel obliged to give him a wide berth (unless they are back markers). At Monaco It means taking some chances. Some of these guys are really worried about safety. At any rate he only said in stronger language, the same thing Fred said a while back, when he questioned whether F1 was a sport anymore.
All things considered starting 9th at Monaco and finishing 6th is not a catastrophe.
I still hold to my contention I've held since 2007 The Boss still has some maturing to do. He is getting there, and I appreciate the guys craft for exactly what it is worth, which is a lot.
No driver is doing what he is doing on track, so they don't experience the kinds of stress levels he finds him self under.
Other drivers simply don't go as far spritually on the track. Hanilton is the only true racer on that track.
Take what he said and ignore the jokes, and you will realize he has many pearls of wisdom in his comments. People just take the worst and block out the main point.
Maturity is not an issue, in fact i don't think there is an issue with the driver.
The only thing he needs is an improved team and an improved car.
I don't blame Hamilton for any of the crashes. Massa simply has a chip on his shoulder and Maldonado didn't prioritize his race.
The videos are in the race thread and it's quite appearent that Both incidents were partly due to Massa moving over purposely and Maldonado preventing an overtake for position.
If he's immature then F1 needs 23 more immature drivers. Coincidentally the 3 most ignorant drivers made the race watchable, Webber, Alonso, Hamilton.
Hamilton wont change just accept that. He is what he is. This "maturity" thing that many speak of here is not really about maturity, it's just a call for him to be like the other so so drivers. He simply isn't.
) and the one in my chest... well, let's move on.