Lewis Hamilton driving standards

[Richard]

Hamilton was never alongside.

So this is an optical illusion. I do apologise.

[HampusA]

You can´t see that he´s not side by side him?
Now it´s ok to use fancy lines to describe something but not when it´s a bout a flexing wing?

This picture doesn´t say much at all, his front wheel can be right next to Maldos rear wheel.

[Sebp]

Hamilton was never alongside.

So this is an optical illusion. I do apologise.

You can´t see that he´s not side by side him?
Now it´s ok to use fancy lines to describe something but not when it´s a bout a flexing wing?

This picture doesn´t say much at all, his front wheel can be right next to Maldos rear wheel.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Not the illusionists again.

[andrew]

Much that it pains me, I have to agree that Hamilton is alongside to an extent. Not completely though.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Yup, that's when the move is done, in the braking zone. The instant Lewis realised Pastor was going to turn in to take the apex, Lewis should have taken to the escape road. Ofcourse, I can't say whether or not this would have been possible.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I remember everyone moaning about Senna when he was forceful on the track... Now he is a legend.....

Not in my mind he ain't. I am most definately not a fan of Senna but Hamilton is not a patch on him so please don't make this comparision.

David Coulthard on Lewis's outburst:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/13593739.stm

Yes, that's right. Applaud someone for opening their mouth, letting their belly rumble and then engaging thier brain.

There is a time and place to say something and their is a time and place for holding your tongue.

I thought the experts were always right?

If you don't like what Lewis has to say, don't watch the interviews?

[andrew]

If you don't like what Lewis has to say, don't watch the interviews?

What?! And miss the excuses? Never! It's the best comedy on the BBC!

[beelsebob]

Yup, that's when the move is done, in the braking zone. The instant Lewis realised Pastor was going to turn in to take the apex, Lewis should have taken to the escape road. Ofcourse, I can't say whether or not this would have been possible.

That photo doesn't show the braking zone, it shows before the braking zone. That said – you can go study the photos I showed earlier that reveal that indeed Hamilton *did* try to cut the corner as soon as he realised Mandy was going to turn in no matter what.

[Tamburello]

Hamilton is THE BOSS.


Don't hate the player hate the game.

Quite right Ringo, I think it's a simple example of a fast guy finding himself down on the grid at the worst track for overtaking. I think that the crash with Nado was a racing incident. The one with Massa was very close but I put the majority of the blame on Lewis.
As good as the boss is at overtaking other pilots should not feel obliged to give him a wide berth (unless they are back markers). At Monaco It means taking some chances. Some of these guys are really worried about safety. At any rate he only said in stronger language, the same thing Fred said a while back, when he questioned whether F1 was a sport anymore.
All things considered starting 9th at Monaco and finishing 6th is not a catastrophe.
I still hold to my contention I've held since 2007 The Boss still has some maturing to do. He is getting there, and I appreciate the guys craft for exactly what it is worth, which is a lot.

I don't agree that he has more maturing to do.
No driver is doing what he is doing on track, so they don't experience the kinds of stress levels he finds him self under.
Other drivers simply don't go as far spritually on the track. Hanilton is the only true racer on that track.
Take what he said and ignore the jokes, and you will realize he has many pearls of wisdom in his comments. People just take the worst and block out the main point.

Maturity is not an issue, in fact i don't think there is an issue with the driver.

The only thing he needs is an improved team and an improved car.

I don't blame Hamilton for any of the crashes. Massa simply has a chip on his shoulder and Maldonado didn't prioritize his race.
The videos are in the race thread and it's quite appearent that Both incidents were partly due to Massa moving over purposely and Maldonado preventing an overtake for position.

If he's immature then F1 needs 23 more immature drivers. Coincidentally the 3 most ignorant drivers made the race watchable, Webber, Alonso, Hamilton.

Hamilton wont change just accept that. He is what he is. This "maturity" thing that many speak of here is not really about maturity, it's just a call for him to be like the other so so drivers. He simply isn't.

I'm sorry sir but you are an idiot when it comes to things Hamilton related.

[andrew]

^

I wouldn't be so quick to call him the boss, more like The Loss.

[PlatinumZealot]

Much that it pains me, I have to agree that Hamilton is alongside to an extent. Not completely though.

Sam Michael said it was a racing incident.. get over it man!

[Tamburello]

Hamilton is THE BOSS.
he opened up a can of woop ass on shumacher into turn 1. Overtake of the year.

Don't hate the player hate the game.

It was another reckless move. He was lucky to get away with it because Schumi took a wide entry and didn't bother to cover the inside line like a normal defender in that corner.

Two drive through penalties and being directly responsible for ruining a good chance for his teammate to win the race, says it all.

Pardon? How did he affect button's race? Neither safety car period was caused by him.

Are you so certain that having torpedoed into Massa car, Hamilton had not caused damage that may have been a substantial reason for why the former lost control of his car in the tunnel?

If Massa came out of the hairpin normally, there would be little chance for Hamilton to have been alongside him in the tunnel. That is fairly certain.

We want clean overtaking moves, not torpedoing into other cars. Kobayashi and even Webber showed how it should be done around Monte Carlo.

So a move where if Schumacher failed to see Hamilton it would have gone very wrong is a bad move, and a move where if Kobayashi failed to see Webber it would have gone very wrong is a good one? If Kobayashi had taken the corner he would have taken them both out – there wasn't even the chance of having enough room for both to make the corner there.

Webber's was a little careless but there was already plenty more room at the apex of the corner with him than with any of Hamilton's three or four harebrained attempts at overtakes. Chalk and Cheese difference. He has NO defence.

BTw, the Kobayashi move which I was referring to in my original post was not this one though.

[Tamburello]

Much that it pains me, I have to agree that Hamilton is alongside to an extent. Not completely though.

Sam Michael said it was a racing incident.. get over it man!

What would a nerdy engineer know about 'racing incidents'??

[andrew]

Much that it pains me, I have to agree that Hamilton is alongside to an extent. Not completely though.

Sam Michael said it was a racing incident.. get over it man!

Over what? I don't have to get over anything or accept anything. I know who was at fault and am comfortable with my judgement.

[ringo]

I'm sorry sir but you are an idiot when it comes to things Hamilton related.

You're right, i don't have it in me to passionately criticize a driver.
I don't have a PhD; a pilot hater degree that is.

People will forever be calling for the guy to mature. It's all nonsense.
Mature to what?
A whinging Rubens Barichello? or A raging Mark Webber?

He is what he is. If you don't like it then you have other drivers to look to as a role model.
He can't be what you want him to be, and i don't think he misses any support from fare-weather fans.
It's always "he drives well, but... my granny doesn't like him, he's a liar.., blah, blah blah". " He's the most exciting to watch but.... my little cousin doesn't like that he wears diamond ear rings and hangs out with those rapper thugs, blah blah."

Every body has their reason why they don't like him. Little do they know they're not relevant enough to him, or to his supporters, for their personal opinion to matter.

Drivers change little over their whole career when it comes to personality.
It is easier for them to change their driving than their personality.
So you can beg for maturity 10 years straight; it's not going to happen like how you want it.
He can mature in different ways not relating to his personality or his demeanor. It can be on the track, dealing with the setup of the car etc.

As it stands the only thing Lewis needs is better team strategy and a faster car to take the fight to Vettel.
Nothing else.

All of this is a distraction.