Italian GP 2011 - Autodromo Nazionale Monza

[raymondu999]

Doesn't change the fact that it was mechanically strong. It was great in slow corners; not so great in aero. The car actually looked good/easy to drive in Monaco 2009; and was quite competitive. Even when they solved a bit of the downforce deficit it was most competitive on slow corners

[komninosm]

Anyways Monza 2011 for me proves once again that Hamilton does not have "IT". A very quick race with sub-human intelligence who would probably never be one of the greats. Would not have half the composure MSC had when he was being lapped around by Hamilton & Vettel. I wold like to see Lewis's reaction in those situations.


Anyways Lewis does not have the 1 lap raw speed as Vettel(who is absolutely the best qualifier since Senna). Neither does he have the intelligence & patience or Button or the absolute package that Alonso is.

Guess he should be happy being a No. 2 to Button for this season. Button has got Hamilton's measure. Lewis's raw speed is barely giving a tenth or a couple over Jenson.

Guess Lewis should be happy that being a 1 TIME CHAMPION. That is where he belongs.

Mr.S, why do you think Lewis Hamilton has subhuman intelligence?

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Maybe it cus he iz black

hehe I see what you did there
I like your meta-humour (Ali G, Hamilton, etc) =D>
what? too soon? :p

[komninosm]

Schumi should really stop driving with his 4 wheels out of track at the end of Ascari. That's already 5 times or even more

got any footage of that?

[komninosm]

Though we could compare his blocking today with last race with Kob and Lewis.
What was that thing about leaving room?

ooo dont go there mate too soon

[MrBlacky]

Schumi should really stop driving with his 4 wheels out of track at the end of Ascari. That's already 5 times or even more

got any footage of that?

He made that almost every lap, but it was allowed so no matter.

[raymondu999]

leaving the track on the exit of ascari is accepted. It's considered lengthening the racetrack rather than a shortcut.

[Aced]

In the words of the following Button, who had the best seat in the house, "I think Lewis went for a gap with Michael that wasn't there, and I got a run on him."

Lewis had to momentarily back out of it, Jenson hit his KERS button and zapped by. He then got a tremendous exit from the second Lesmo and immediately did to Schumacher what Hamilton had been unable to.

"I got him down the outside into Ascari which was pretty brave as Michael doesn't give much room," Jenson beamed. "I don't know how close we were. I didn't look in the mirror and I pretty much closed my eyes after I turned in. Probably one of my best passes. Very happy with that!"

Well, Jensnon also said this after the race and he probably had the best view of it all:

"I had such a good run on Michael and came on him so fast that he couldn't move a lot. It would have been very dangerous.

"But with Lewis he was moving across to the left and then to the right, which I don't think was all that bright.

"Fair enough, he was coming out of a corner on to the straight but why didn't he keep to the left.

"He always went to the right, then left and back to the right — not exactly what we agree is right.

"One move. Maybe he has just lost his memory."

[HampusA]

I admire Hamilton´s way of handling it though.

Hamilton is known for hard racing but Schumacher is the best at hard racing and Hamilton knows that. That´s why he did not complain after the race.
He figured it was his time to be on the other end instead of the other way around.

"it´s racing" sums it up perfectly i think. Next time it´s Schumi´s turn to work.
And i have to say i think Hamilton enjoyed that racing more then some other stuff.

[Mr Alcatraz]

Well stated old bean!
It's just his bleeding fans that are having a benny....anti-clockwise

[MrBlacky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eJGUQms ... ture=feedf

I somehow get that feeling that Schumacher did not defend his position very hard against Button because at this point he already knew that he go to pits.

[ringo]

Can someone explain why Hamilton is wearing these ridiculous overalls with the wrong last name on them?

Whooaaa!!!

Didn't notice that.

He should wears those in the next race for some inspiration.

[ringo]

I admire Hamilton´s way of handling it though.

Hamilton is known for hard racing but Schumacher is the best at hard racing and Hamilton knows that. That´s why he did not complain after the race.
He figured it was his time to be on the other end instead of the other way around.

"it´s racing" sums it up perfectly i think. Next time it´s Schumi´s turn to work.
And i have to say i think Hamilton enjoyed that racing more then some other stuff.

Shumacher's hard racing is different. It's called giving the other guy the choice to kill himself or brake. He isn't the best at racing, he's the best at assisted suicide.

[ringo]

I thought the Merc had horrible traction out of slow turns.

It has always been strong on exit.

[marcush.]

I admire Hamilton´s way of handling it though.

Hamilton is known for hard racing but Schumacher is the best at hard racing and Hamilton knows that. That´s why he did not complain after the race.
He figured it was his time to be on the other end instead of the other way around.

"it´s racing" sums it up perfectly i think. Next time it´s Schumi´s turn to work.
And i have to say i think Hamilton enjoyed that racing more then some other stuff.

Shumacher's hard racing is different. It's called giving the other guy the choice to kill himself or brake. He isn't the best at racing, he's the best at assisted suicide.

You are really mixing up things here .Hamilton and Schumacher did not even make the slightest of contact. Schumacher slowed down Hamilton to rob him of any chance to use the strengths of his car for a overtaking move ,which is in my book brilliant defensive driving .
Compare this with Webber vs Hamilton last year uncompromising cack handed sending the other guy into the wall.
It would be nice to not bash Schumacher for putting Hamilton on the grass and on the other side talking of brilliant overtaking of Vettel vs Alonso -who put Vettel in the gras just as much.

[Aced]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eJGUQms ... ture=feedf

I somehow get that feeling that Schumacher did not defend his position very hard against Button because at this point he already knew that he go to pits.

I think the reason why Hamilton couldn't overtake Schumacher was that he was trying a bit too hard. Hamilton is an aggressive overtaker and it's just too hard to overtake Schumacher with aggressivity because he's always going to be a little more aggressive than you. You have to play it smart rather than aggressive with Schumacher if you want to get away with it easy.

The problem was that Hamilton was catching him too early and getting out of the slipstream halfway through the straight and from that moment with the extra drag he was slowing down which allowed Schumacher to pull away again before reaching the corner. So by the time he reached the corner, most of the time, he was behind Schumacher not alongside him.

That's the difference with Buttons overtake. He closed in from a long way, got out of the slipstream very late, used the extra speed to it's max extent and that's it then you're just gonna have to brake late and go for it. He did the same with Rosberg in Spa, he moved out of the slipstream the moment he sensed that he was getting too close too early.

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eJGUQms ... ture=feedf