F1 telemetry Around Jerez - Data analysis F1 rFactor

[Tifoso]

Tifoso sorry for the late reply..

You need http://www.dzracing.net/public_software ... 0.9.4b.zip

its a data plugin for rfactor. You install it and then once u activate it, rfactor will create log files for motec. Then you simple load the data up in telemetry and thats it. simple

Simple question, how do I activate it

[David Anthony]

in the instructions, it says. When u click race in the simulation, u press cltr-M then u will here a voice. "Data acuisition enabbled". Thats it. simple

[JoshJ81]

I use Motec for rFactor as well and have a question on this.

I use Motec for the most part I'm trying to learn more about it other than for ride heights and fuel usage.

I've been getting into learning how to read and setup fast and slow dampers based on what Motec tells me.

I understand what each damper does, but I want to see what is optimum range I'm looking for when reading Motec and what changes need to made to get the dampers in my desired range.

I've read that I'm looking for -30 to 0 to 30 on the Damper velocities. But I'm barely our under 10 or -10mm/s. what is the best to look for in an F1 car? Just looking for some insight on how to properly set the dampers so the Motec gives me a reading that I'm looking for.

Thanks
Josh

[Just_a_fan]

And has a nicer tone to it, when explaining your girlfriend why you'll be unavailable for 6 hours, to do a 1000Km race! "I'm not playing, honey, I'm experiencing a simulator"

Careful, next time you try to get some, ahem, "fun" she might reply "sorry, honey, but I've already used my stimulator!"

[JoshJ81]

I use Motec for rFactor as well and have a question on this.

I use Motec for the most part I'm trying to learn more about it other than for ride heights and fuel usage.

I've been getting into learning how to read and setup fast and slow dampers based on what Motec tells me.

I understand what each damper does, but I want to see what is optimum range I'm looking for when reading Motec and what changes need to made to get the dampers in my desired range.

I've read that I'm looking for -30 to 0 to 30 on the Damper velocities. But I'm barely our under 10 or -10mm/s. what is the best to look for in an F1 car? Just looking for some insight on how to properly set the dampers so the Motec gives me a reading that I'm looking for.

Thanks
Josh

BUMP

[odin]

Hello

i do a lot of online racing, and i have seen some people ask about telemetry information in this section. I have put together this post and it has the telemetry data for when i do testing for my car before the online league season starts. I have laps of Jerez, in a williams f1 car using rfactor. The system is as close to f1 as possible, no driver aids allowed, low tc and so on.

I wish I could shake your hand you have helped me so much with that post, in fact I would even risk being greedy and ask if you could tell me one thing that really bugs me:

After following your advice i made slight adjustments and great great results, but im still getting overheating tyres, mainly the FL at 140 degrees max and FR 120 degrees max and rear both at 110, no matter what I do with the settings I can only cool the 140 down to 130 and no more, so is there a limit or can I get them cooler?

Also what exactly is the ideal tyre temp, oil temp, brake temp etc because my brake temp hits 1,000 degrees after 4 laps with almost full air ducts?

Thanks so much again, the images you uploaded were such a big help, first class tutorial.
Joe

[mep]

hehehe odin
first of all I have to thank you for bringing this topic up again. Somehow I never noticed it and see it the first time now.

Can you just help me a bit I have some little problem:
I downloaded Motec i2 pro and the Data Acyuisition Plugin. I run some laps and get a log file. Just when I go into the folder with Mo Tec it tells me: There are no log files in this folder.
The files have the extension .ld and .ldx.
So how can I open them in Mo Tec?

[mep]

Ok solved the problem by downloading a older version of MoTec.
Now there is some minor issue because I don't get a damper readout.
Any ideas?
However great software. =D>

Regarding your questions about tires/brake temperatures I think that will depent on the mod you are using. Also I wonder if the tires play such a big role in rfactor. Would like to see some data about this.

[odin]

Ok solved the problem by downloading a older version of MoTec.
Now there is some minor issue because I don't get a damper readout.
Any ideas?
However great software. =D>

Regarding your questions about tires/brake temperatures I think that will depent on the mod you are using. Also I wonder if the tires play such a big role in rfactor. Would like to see some data about this.

I tried older version but still wouldn't show, i have to keep converting.

I get the damper velocity readout, im using the latest pro version maybe thats why you cant see it.

On my tyres they are more grippy on the 4th hotlap and around 130 degrees but I dont know if thats too hot or an ideal temperature.

[mep]

On my tyres they are more grippy on the 4th hotlap and around 130 degrees but I dont know if thats too hot or an ideal temperature.

Well you can use Motec now to find out.
Do a couple of laps with hot tires and a couple of laps with colder ones. Then compare tire wear after x laps. If wear is the same or you are still able to do quicker laps with the hoter tires than its better to run them hot.
And you can test out how many laps you can run on the tire until you need to make a pitstop.

[odin]

On my tyres they are more grippy on the 4th hotlap and around 130 degrees but I dont know if thats too hot or an ideal temperature.

Well you can use Motec now to find out.
Do a couple of laps with hot tires and a couple of laps with colder ones. Then compare tire wear after x laps. If wear is the same or you are still able to do quicker laps with the hoter tires than its better to run them hot.
And you can test out how many laps you can run on the tire until you need to make a pitstop.

I made a discovery today thats made me smile but also confuse me, I changed my wings to a drastic and unusual setting and its made me 1 second quicker a lap and thats just .200 away from the best lap on the server and these guys are serious pro's. Im buzzing!! lol

I was getting no results at all form all this telemetry thing, I suppose F1 is all about wings and suspension etc is very much secondary.

[mep]

Well maybe you just found the shortcoming of your mod. In the end it just remains a game and the qualities of your mod depends on the skills the creator had.
Maybe you just try another mod. I have never spent to much time with wings. You just can't make many adjustments there because it just allows you to set front and rear wing angle so you find the a good adjustment very easily. Also you can check the top speed the others achieve and by this draw conclusions about their wing angle. I usually drive Monaco and there I just set the highest angles possible,
-job done.

Much more time consuming is finding the right adjustments for the other setup possibilities. I found always find much time (last time at least 1 second) with the right differential adjustment but that's something you can't see with the motec readout.
However if you don't get any results than it is probably just because you have not used the program properly now.
I will try out some fine adjustments now.

[odin]

Well maybe you just found the shortcoming of your mod. In the end it just remains a game and the qualities of your mod depends on the skills the creator had.
Maybe you just try another mod. I have never spent to much time with wings. You just can't make many adjustments there because it just allows you to set front and rear wing angle so you find the a good adjustment very easily. Also you can check the top speed the others achieve and by this draw conclusions about their wing angle. I usually drive Monaco and there I just set the highest angles possible,
-job done.

Much more time consuming is finding the right adjustments for the other setup possibilities. I found always find much time (last time at least 1 second) with the right differential adjustment but that's something you can't see with the motec readout.
However if you don't get any results than it is probably just because you have not used the program properly now.
I will try out some fine adjustments now.

Exactly, it only gives you limited info, it gives me technical info but no answers with how to deal with it, be nice to have an app that gives you suggestions on what needs adjusting.

[odin]

Well maybe you just found the shortcoming of your mod. In the end it just remains a game and the qualities of your mod depends on the skills the creator had.
Maybe you just try another mod. I have never spent to much time with wings. You just can't make many adjustments there because it just allows you to set front and rear wing angle so you find the a good adjustment very easily. Also you can check the top speed the others achieve and by this draw conclusions about their wing angle. I usually drive Monaco and there I just set the highest angles possible,
-job done.

Much more time consuming is finding the right adjustments for the other setup possibilities. I found always find much time (last time at least 1 second) with the right differential adjustment but that's something you can't see with the motec readout.
However if you don't get any results than it is probably just because you have not used the program properly now.
I will try out some fine adjustments now.

Also about the wings, i always make sure i fine tune them so they are doing most of the "turning" and the brake bias usually around 51 is complimenting the turning affect, this way i get the fastest lap times so you should play more with them. The difference between say 37f 28r and 35f a 31r could totally transform the handling from just ok to amazing.