10kg advantage over few hundred corners in a race could mean quite a lot on tires.dren wrote:Not really, the weight can be lower in the car. The 10kilos would be of benefit, but probably marginal. The difference between pace is almost all down to driver skill and car set-up.
I'm not sure if anyone has been clear enough about this.........Captain Nemo wrote:This means Red bull can load him with 10 kg less fuel or 10 kg more fuel and tell him to beast the hell out of it.
Anyone disagree? F1 is becoming a farce again - the lightest driver in the fastest car wins...
Technical regulation stated that cars must weigh at least 640kg (including the driver) at all times.RH1300S wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone has been clear enough about this.........
Minimum weight is measured by adding car AND driver weights together to get to 640kg (including his race suit and helmet). If a car and driver is below the minimum weight they have to add ballast. This has NOTHING to do with fuel loads.
Needing to use ballast may give a slight advantage because there is more flexibility with where you distribute the weight. Having said that I think the FIA have tightened up on where ballast can be located too.
The fact you are obviously determined not to see is that Vettel is fast, simple as that.
It is less than 1kg (between 0.6-1kg some years ago).CHT wrote:there is a min fuel required in the tank for the fuel pump to function properly.
Lurk wrote:It is less than 1kg (between 0.6-1kg some years ago).CHT wrote:there is a min fuel required in the tank for the fuel pump to function properly.
Moreover you can't proove how low on fuel your car will stop, so weighing is always done without any fuel onboard.
And I'm agreed with dren: 10kg difference between 2 drivers is not where the difference come. Schumacher have always weighed something like 75kg, I don't think it ever impede him to be fast.
Weight could be a problem in smaller categories when wheighing is done without the driver, not in formula one.
I remember though the accusations of him cheating with his weight in 1994. IIRC drivers were weighted at the start of the GP (or even the season) only, and somehow Michael was caught with several kilos weight difference. I remember Berger said something along the lines "he drinks like a horse"Lurk wrote:Schumacher have always weighed something like 75kg, I don't think it ever impede him to be fast.
There was a story going around when they first started weighing driver and car that Michael used to take his helmet off after a race and hand it to a mechanic. Before he was weighed, the 'helmet' was handed back and was quite a bit heavier. IIRC they changed the rules to prevent this type of thing happening.timbo wrote:I remember though the accusations of him cheating with his weight in 1994. IIRC drivers were weighted at the start of the GP (or even the season) only, and somehow Michael was caught with several kilos weight difference. I remember Berger said something along the lines "he drinks like a horse"Lurk wrote:Schumacher have always weighed something like 75kg, I don't think it ever impede him to be fast.
what MS and bennetton did back then was:RH1300S wrote:There was a story going around when they first started weighing driver and car that Michael used to take his helmet off after a race and hand it to a mechanic. Before he was weighed, the 'helmet' was handed back and was quite a bit heavier. IIRC they changed the rules to prevent this type of thing happening.timbo wrote:I remember though the accusations of him cheating with his weight in 1994. IIRC drivers were weighted at the start of the GP (or even the season) only, and somehow Michael was caught with several kilos weight difference. I remember Berger said something along the lines "he drinks like a horse"Lurk wrote:Schumacher have always weighed something like 75kg, I don't think it ever impede him to be fast.
Because KERS is limited nonetheless of how many battery packs you have. 6s or so per lap, I think? And because they essentially get recharged throughout, the little indicator we see during races are really just the allotment per lap and not actual capacity of the batteries being used up. Frankly, I would love to see how much the batteries hold fully charged (maybe enough for 12s per lap? more?) and see how well drivers could do with unlimited KERS!Shrieker wrote:As another fellow member has pointed out, if your car+driver is 10 kg short of the limit, why add 10 kg of ballast and not 10 kg of kers batteries
Ofcourse that isn't supposed to explain the gap between Vettel and Webber. But it might point out why Webber kinda had more kers issues since the start of the season.