New version of ECU next season for 3 years

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New version of ECU next season for 3 years

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http://www.tomorrownewsf1.com/f1-un-ecu ... 2013-27428
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Introduced in 2008 under the reign of the old president of the FIA Max Mosley, the ECU, standard electronic system had no problems since, except the recent business around the Renault engines. The fact remains that the ECU will be used once again over the period of 2013 – 2015, still subcontracted to the duo McLaren Electronic Systems – Microsoft.
Given that the introduction of the 1.6L V6 engine has been pushed back by one year, into 2014, one year of transition with the V8s will occur in 2013. The fact remains that the new version of the ECU will allow more freedom than today for the last year of operating the naturally aspirated engines.

Peter Van Manen, the representative for the ECU to McLaren Eletronic, points out that the next year's standard electronics version will be more open and will give more freedom to the engineers. 75 % of the system will be standardized, but 25 % will be liberated for the use of the teams. Nevertheless, not to be mistaken, the system is still designed to avoid issues like traction and launch control. The restrictions are reduced, but remain an important point in Formula 1.
It sounds like MES is ready for field tests with the new ECU. I reckon they will still allow profiles and mapping but based on a higher bus standard than the old CAN bus. Has anybody specific knowledge what kind of bus standards and integrated chips MES will be using?

Apparently the planning for an upgraded ECU were kept on schedule, which makes sense. You don't want to introduce too many new things at the same time. The teams will have time in 2013 to learn the new more powerful SECU and it's associated tools. The teething problems can be ironed out and in 2014 the new system simply has to be switched to the turbo power train. It also gives the engineers the opportunity to do test runs of the turbos with the proper new ECU from day one.
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The next step is a standardised telemetry system with 20% of all telemetry streams open to all teams. Whitch should bring costs down by arround €5.5m a year on telemetry R&D for all teams as Max Mosley was wanting the SECU to be the start, then 7 to 9 years later a standard telemetry stream to be used by all.

It would make sence for all this to be packaged into the new engine formula.

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If they are still following Mosley's philosophy they are falling into a deep ditch.
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Dragonfly wrote:If they are still following Mosley's philosophy they are falling into a deep ditch.
Diversity is what generates the life force of F1.
Standardized ECU and tyres would not happen unless the teams were convinced of the necessity. There are tangible benefits for the sporting and cost side. To cry wolf every time when an idea by Max Mosley is being pursued is not very helpful. You surely want diversity but not if people are invited to cheat all the time or the constructor's championship becomes a championship for rubber formulas and who can get most testing done.
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Teams? They have been converted into a herd of sheep, steered by Bernie.
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If that were true, we'd probably have a budget cap by now.

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As I understand it, the current CAN bus system is still based on a serial protocol and has essentially been around forever now. I see the only real way of upgrading it would be to incorporate multiple nodes and buses capable of producing multiple signals simultaneously rather than just one at a time which I believe is the limiting factor to all CAN based systems.

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Standard ECU is not for cost but for cheating really..
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http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Produ ... ct/TAG-320gives a look at what the new ECU will be capable of.
CAN will still be used, but with 12 buses it will be up to the task
MES use Freescale processors, there's a bit in the press about them being used for the NASCAR injection control system.
I also believe that the 'liberated 25%' will be introduced for 2014 with the new engine spec. It will be interesting to see what freedom the teams are given...

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Wouldn't be surprised if they go along the lines of "flex ray"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlexRay

Its a much faster bus than CAN is to begin with but also has better redundancy qualities. The current generation BMw vehicles use it and we've found it to be a much more stable, fault free system than CAN ever was.

Just my $.02

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