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I remember in one of the earlier races Lewis was left out on worn tires losing time and he wasn't pitted in because Button who was in front of him hadn't come into pits yet. Hamilton lost a few places because of this. It's clear that Button always gets the optimum strategies while Hamilton has to fight all the time after his team constantly mess his strategy up.raymondu999 wrote:I'm not sure that's true to be honest. LH got an earlier pitstop at some phase of the last race - don't remember which stop though. Button was somewhat surprised.
Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Button always gets the best strategy no matter if he's leading or not. It's like they do their best so that he can jump Hamilton at every possible moment.GrizzleBoy wrote:It's actually funny because it's bit them in the ass on more than one occasion.
They pit Button first in Malaysia and gave Button track position over Hamilton, only for Button to drive straight into Karthikeyan.
This time they released Button into clean air and put Hamilton behind traffic again, as well as royally screwing up his pit stops, and Button doesn't even get to finish the race.
It's never been the leader who gets to pit first, it's the leader who gets first choice of strategy.internetf1fan wrote:Whatever happened to leader pits first?
So if the leader doesn't want to pit, then they should let Hamilton pit. I remember in one of the previous race they left out Hamilton on worn tires losing a lot of time just because Button didn't want to pit yet. Hamilton lost a lot of time.Giblet wrote:It's never been the leader who gets to pit first, it's the leader who gets first choice of strategy.internetf1fan wrote:Whatever happened to leader pits first?
Often they will choose to pit first more often than not, but it's not automatic.
If Hamilton and his side of the garage wanted to pit first, they would have.
Australia - into the first stop. It's always been leader pits first for the McLarens - they've only deviated in this race and the last.internetf1fan wrote:I remember in one of the earlier races Lewis was left out on worn tires losing time and he wasn't pitted in because Button who was in front of him hadn't come into pits yet. Hamilton lost a few places because of this. It's clear that Button always gets the optimum strategies while Hamilton has to fight all the time after his team constantly mess his strategy up.raymondu999 wrote:I'm not sure that's true to be honest. LH got an earlier pitstop at some phase of the last race - don't remember which stop though. Button was somewhat surprised.
Which ironically are the races where Hamilton was leading.raymondu999 wrote:Australia - into the first stop. It's always been leader pits first for the McLarens - they've only deviated in this race and the last.internetf1fan wrote:I remember in one of the earlier races Lewis was left out on worn tires losing time and he wasn't pitted in because Button who was in front of him hadn't come into pits yet. Hamilton lost a few places because of this. It's clear that Button always gets the optimum strategies while Hamilton has to fight all the time after his team constantly mess his strategy up.raymondu999 wrote:I'm not sure that's true to be honest. LH got an earlier pitstop at some phase of the last race - don't remember which stop though. Button was somewhat surprised.
It's nothing new, nothing new at all.Maelstrom wrote:Well one thing is for certain... McLaren definately need to up their game when it comes to race strategies and pit stops. They currently stink.