Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[xpensive]

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But, can that happen with three chiefs who may think their collective ability can engineer their way out of any problems?

Why of course, the more the marrier, now with Elliott Ness arriving only Justin Bieber is missing to complete the team?

But seriously, anyone who ever had a go at it knows that engineering never had anything to do with democracy, it's not xactly a beauty contest, where decision by committe is the way to go.

[marcush.]

I have worked in environments with comparable headcount and design by commitee and it all was a true mess .Nevertheless it all resulted in two respectable road cars ....but when i see the question popping up is always -what could have been achieved? I was always struggling to understand the weekly meetings when everybody seemed unable or unwilling to move or even forward an idea(most of the time it was more -we have done it like this since...you know when) and generally it should have hinged on how the guy leading the mess handled it.in reality he was just hosting the club never coming up with
hard premises or concepts but hoped for achieving compromise in those meetings -what did not happen ever.In the end people like me -who had no real full vehicle or even system responsibility steered this project -as I had a dedicated plan what i wnated to achieve.
In the end things worked in my ways but seriously -i have no idea if this was good or bad in the complete car context.(Ihave an idea ...but I won´t air it)...

To put this into Mercedes GP context:Changing the heads will not change things at all at systems level or with parts -as the bosses usually have no time ,interest ,knowledge to challenge the specialists in these areas.So in my view it will take a serious amount of rub and fireing to get rid of some unwanted structure

[JACKSONVILLE]

"Miles ahead" in points- yes. In terms of peformance? I beg to differ. "Some bad luck"?

What performance? He did some reasonable qualy's, but that's about it. Just compare every result of the last 3 years between the 2 of them and on every objective basis, Rosberg has been the better one for every year.

MSC has had some bad luck this year, but almost every driver in the current line-up has had his share of bad luck. Not to mention all the mistakes he's been making since his comeback. Last 2 races I've seen him crash twice in FP (in the wet, but he's supposed to be one of the best in the rain?) and what about the Hungary-start? Luck is something very trivial, but in the end you make your own luck. By crashing, stalling and whatever you're not creating any luck, but it's easy to say he's 'unlucky'.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro-Rosberg or anti-Schumacher, but I'm getting quite bored with all the excuses and etc. about MSC' poor performance and the comparison with what Rosberg is doing. MSC's not performing and any other driver would probably been sacked by now.

You are clearly a Schumacher hater stop lying it is evident in your pathetic attempt to undermine him loool. He has really bad luck, those are the facts SIMPLE so if you don't like it go watch Paul di Resta loool. There's alot of folks saying that Paul should get Micheal's seat loooooooooooooooooool for what give me a break. That is the most comical thing I have heard in a long time sorry, but Mercedes only came back in to f1 because of michael those are the facts sir.

[marcush.]

I´d say Schumacher is the smallest of their Problems these days.
Team seems happy with his work .He had a pole and certainly his qualy performance is no worse than Rosbergs ,so the one thing lacking is the amount of points.
But he has scored a lot more than Rosberg recently as well ...so who says anyone would be more competitive? sutil? di Resta ? Kovalainen ?
where is the proof?or any evidence one of thoose is true championship material...never mind Michael has "just" 7 titles under his belt -so much for evidence.
plus you cannot ignore his value as an ambassador for the sport..every guy and his dog knows schumacher or at least has heard of him.Nobody in the world at large knows Sutil ,die Resta or Kova...or Britney.
The next best in terms of publicity would be the STIG methinks...as Fangio cannot be retrieved and Moss is just an old man these days...(forgive the unappropriete non showing of respect for elder people)

[SeijaKessen]

Aren't there people out there that can conjure spirits back from the grave and cause them to possess a living person for a short time?

Why not just sacrifice Britney for such a thing, and get the spirit of Fangio to possess him before every GP?

[marcush.]

Aren't there people out there that can conjure spirits back from the grave and cause them to possess a living person for a short time?

Why not just sacrifice Britney for such a thing, and get the spirit of Fangio to possess him before every GP?

oh ,I´d be happy with keke taking posession of britney for the duration of a(each) race.To me britney is just too uninspired with his driving ..he seems to fuel his ego just from comarisons inside the mercedes garage ...and as soon as it works not his ways the car team and god is to blame.

[SeijaKessen]

Aren't there people out there that can conjure spirits back from the grave and cause them to possess a living person for a short time?

Why not just sacrifice Britney for such a thing, and get the spirit of Fangio to possess him before every GP?

oh ,I´d be happy with keke taking posession of britney for the duration of a(each) race.To me britney is just too uninspired with his driving ..he seems to fuel his ego just from comarisons inside the mercedes garage ...and as soon as it works not his ways the car team and god is to blame.

I am glad you posted this because I wasn't sure if I was imagining how dull Britney is.

One sort of gets the feeling Britney would rather be posing for paparazzi on a beach somewhere with his latest squeeze.

MGP, should they be around for the 2013 campaign should definitely consider finding another driver...or two depending on whether Herr Schumacher skips off back home to Switzerland.

[marcush.]

rosberg has signed a lonterm contract..another item hard to understand...why is it so imortant to sign a guy for so long when there is no evidence he might be able to emulate Alonso or Vettel let alone schumacher?
Igt´snot giving them any discounts.a champ will always crank up his price ...and he´s already one with a good salary considering his achievements.

[zyphro]

I am glad you posted this because I wasn't sure if I was imagining how dull Britney is.

One sort of gets the feeling Britney would rather be posing for paparazzi on a beach somewhere with his latest squeeze.

Yeah, he seems to like cruising around and bagging decent points. Until he faces his team-mate on track that is.

[zyphro]

rosberg has signed a lonterm contract..

Here's a better question: why did he not join McLaren when he had the chance?

I mean come on, even Button beat Hamilton last year (one way or another). He could've done the same, or, at least had more victories by now.

[marcush.]

some guys just don´t get it right when it comes to contracts..
career planning ..
maybe they don´t realise not everyone has 30 years in formula 1?

the longrunners were Patrese ,Barrichello and Schumacher ?

[zyphro]

some guys just don´t get it right when it comes to contracts..
career planning ..
maybe they don´t realise not everyone has 30 years in formula 1?

the longrunners were Patrese ,Barrichello and Schumacher ?

Haha, didn't Nico take his fathers advice?

[wunderkind]

some guys just don´t get it right when it comes to contracts..
career planning ..
maybe they don´t realise not everyone has 30 years in formula 1?

the longrunners were Patrese ,Barrichello and Schumacher ?

Don't worry, F1 drivers with bargaining power will only commit to long-term contracts with a few "out" clauses that allow them to leave if things don't work out.

[xpensive]

NR's dad's biggest mistake was to think that he could take on Alain Prost in the same car, during 1986, which effectively finished off his career, had he stayed on with Williams he would surely had won another WDC or two.

NR not being able to comprehensively destroy an old fart, 17 years his senior, has obviously the same effect on his.

I don't know where this team is heading really, there seems to be a total lack of direction, signing NR for three years more?

[marcush.]

that´s the fact -Schumacher has inched closer to rosberg and now after three years the gap is just in points --and if you count it´s really Schumachers bad luck that was Roisbergs luck in those races when Nico bagged so many points.It was certainly not a matter caused by Rosbergs dominant speed.
point is:the old fart has added another three years of age under his belt and hey he is inching closer or equals the young gun ...one would have expected Rosberg takes one year to absorb all of schumachers expertise and wipe the floor with him comprehensively in year three at the very latest.To me -I have not seen ANY improvement on rosbergs form or tacttics or how he performs in any way .He does what he does and he sometimes just has those non scoring weekends for no obvious reasons.