Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[Huntresa]

haha Flav... Flav can only talk, nothing else.

[zyphro]

I think I saw Willis in FP1.

[zyphro]

According to Rosberg, small bits and pieces for this race, with bigger upgrades coming in future races (presumably a biggie for Singapore).

[Dragonfly]

Recently I started thinking that "you cannot unlearn" principle is playing tricks with them, as the team, lead by Brawn, is trying to find another lucky shot like the DDD which would allow them to have an instant advantage. But this, if true to some extent, hinders a traditional gradual upgrade approach.

[Mestrades]

Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn says restructuring is finally complete and hopes will mean "strong competitive position in the future"

[zyphro]

Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn says restructuring is finally complete and hopes will mean "strong competitive position in the future"

Source? He better not come up with this bull crap excuse, 6 months down the line.

[Paul]

Flav? He couldn't make a nail nevermind F1 development parts.

Well, so does Luca di, but his presence alone seems to at least double the rate Ferrari mechanics work at. So I wouldn't dismiss the idea...

[Vasconia]

Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn says restructuring is finally complete and hopes will mean "strong competitive position in the future"

Source? He better not come up with this bull crap excuse, 6 months down the line.

Its nos complete(you have to pay to read all the article) but you can see it here:

http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... -mercedes/

[marcush.]

maybe we all need a bit more patience...
looking at Ferraris front wing evaluation perhaps tells a surprising story these days...and Schumachers interview of how Brawn talked him into rethinking his retirement is another one.
Schumacher himself had not even thought he could be competitive before sampling Massas Ferrari and even after this it was not really in his mind to try a comeback.
so really Brawn was instrumental in luring him back ...question is if he was as clear as necessary when it comes to how competitive the equipment would be in those three years.
Reading this I have the impression Schumacher is looking for a fitting end -going full circle - with his motorsports career these days..but he himself is not sure if this could be a win in SPA -or Suzuka - or a 8th championchip ....So if we want to see Schumacher again in 2013 it may be better not to have him win this year ...
post Qualy interview with Schumacher was very interesting -Schumacher was actually very happy with his time -a optimum lap according to him and the one positive :he is in front of poor Rosberg ....he clearly made the impression of THE TEAMLEADER ..Rosberg is done.In these critical times for the team..Rosberg is down and demotivated where Schumacher is all positives and biting as if he was the new gun.. =D> =D> =D> =D>

[Mestrades]

Interesting "perspective". Would you rather the team ran an unproven upgrade during it's one and only practice before Qualy? In so doing gleaning pretty much no information on set up for race and qualifying. Do you even know how long it takes to fit and remove the said upgrade? Lotus did exactly the same thing, too.
It's standard procedure. The lamentable side of it is that it rained on Friday with hardly any running to speak of.

When you are the 6th or the 7th team of the grid, with only 3 o 4 cars worse than you, you have to try new things... Lotus is fighting for the championship, it's logic that they are more conservative. But, Mercedes? They have to put all eggs in one basket. I prefer to run an unproven upgrade and to obtain a bad result than not to run the upgrade and to do the same bad result...

[FoxHound]

When you are the 6th or the 7th team of the grid, with only 3 o 4 cars worse than you, you have to try new things... Lotus is fighting for the championship, it's logic that they are more conservative. But, Mercedes? They have to put all eggs in one basket. I prefer to run an unproven upgrade and to obtain a bad result than not to run the upgrade and to do the same bad result...

So run the risk, and the odds are you lose set-up time as well as tyre information just to see if your upgrade gives you more time?
I put it to you that getting the set-up right in your one and only practice session is far more valuable than running some magic-bullet upgrade that most likely wont work first time out. And you can also get more indication as to what your tyre deg will be and then formulate a better pit strategy, adding more time.

It's very short sighted that you think they should bolt it on and "hope" for the best. This is Mercedes after all, what is their record with upgrades? Poor isn't it? So where are you basing your opinion in something other than hope?
Trust me, as poor as these guys are, they are miles ahead of what you are proposing.

[marcush.]

Brawn clearly stated the lack of change in regulations for next year allow them to develop the car right to the end of season as all can be carried over for next year.
Ah....well he forgot that DDRs will not be a carry over for 2013.. but apart from this we will see w04 as a iteration of w03
it seems the basics will not change .

[zyphro]

This is what happens when you don't bring updates very often. There is no justification, this is disgraceful.

They dropped the ball a very long time ago; I'd really like to know the reason behind the lack of updates - very odd. Are the cash-strapped or what?

[Dragonfly]

This is what happens when you don't bring updates very often. There is no justification, this is disgraceful.

They dropped the ball a very long time ago; I'd really like to know the reason behind the lack of updates - very odd. Are the cash-strapped or what?

They never had the ball in order to drop it. Have the feeling they count on some miracle and are otherwise helpless like kittens.
Not surprised by today's result. Stopped expecting good performance long time ago.
Pity for both drivers.

[zyphro]

They never had the ball in order to drop it.

Yes they did - they were strong at the start of the season and very competitive in qualifying. Which has vanished ever since Monaco: coincidentally, that was the last time they introduced a major update .