Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[Adamski]

on their recent small upgrade with a lotus-lookalike DRS system i don't get it, why they need to focus on straightline speed when they are suffering in other areas...

Indeed: they're loosing what? 2-3 tenths in S1 and S3, whilst losing a SECOND in S2 .

If they are stalling the rear wing in the straights, they can have more downforce at the rear when the car is in the corners, then they can solve their balance issues with using again the cascades.

It means they will have the same straight line speed with better downforce rates. Of course it doesn't meant they don't need to improve the general downforce of the car, as we can see that they are loosing too much time in the fast and long corners.

As reading Michael's interview after today's quali ("We will have further steps coming soon, so we will go on fighting.") and reading the last interview with Brawn and Nico, my feeling is that until now the new guys (Willis, Costa, Bell) just can't work properly until Bigois (who was responsible for the car's weakest point, the aerodynamic) leave.

Maybe with the new guy (Elliot) came, better relationships starting to lay down inside the team and the totally new structure now start working much smoother. Bigois was the last troll from the ever loosing management team, so maybe he's presence stopping the team to rethink the development rout of this car.

At least, the copy of the Lotus' passive F-duct makes me happy and confident, that after some dry running Mercedes start to get back into a better form.

[yener]

.SO WHY NOT REMOVE ROSBERGS CAR FROM PARC FERME AND GIVE THEDEVELOPMENT PARTS SOME TRACK TIME????

Marcush, i already mentioned it before. They really don't know what the F they are doing. They are just a fail team hoping every pre-season they will find something like a DoubleDiffuser which made the BGP001 WorldChampion.
They don't and can't think on a long time strategised development. w01, w02 and w03 are not related with eachother.

They are not family, and they just create a car every season in the hope they will be so fast like the BGP001.

It's just like having a baby and when the baby start to grows up, throw it away and take another baby. That baby won't learn to walk or talk.

Even Force India is doing currently better. It's a shame but everybody has to be realistic and MGP has to stop acting like they are a top team, because they are definitly NOT.

[lillschumi]

First: Theory about no development because Bigois left is absurd. He is not alone working on Aero and what the hell is Willis contribution, managing?, why bring an aero expert to manage and not get his hands dirty.

Second: Why prioritize development of the ddrs, once again just shows how lost they are. This year is a much tighter field so you need some speed on the straights without drs to be able to pull away from the front. Makes sense for Lotus to refine ddrs because they have a fundamental efficient car so ddrs is the "icing on the cake".

Third: as i have said for a couple of months, they have written this season off. Could be either because they realized w03 suck so it´s not worth it or maybe everything is really uncertain what´s going to happen for 2013 which creates a vacuum. I would say that if MS signs for next year then we know they have presented a plan to him to make them competitive. The fine thing is that MS have been onboard for 3 years now so he will be able to call BS, so he wont be fooled again.

[Vasconia]

SO WHY NOT REMOVE ROSBERGS CAR FROM PARC FERME AND GIVE THEDEVELOPMENT PARTS SOME TRACK TIME????

I agree 100%.

I have mentioned exactly the same in the cars post. It would be a great idea in order to improve the system for the next race, Monza will require top speed and if this system is good the car will improve a lot.

[yener]

@lilschumi

First of all we have to cut all the BS like, the field is much tighter, the tyres are way softer and the drivers are much faster.

What happens behind the doors at MGP is always a question. But even that is no excuse. I can give you many examples. Ross Brawn, Jean Tod, Michael Schumacher, Chris Dyer and many more guys left Ferrari.
But Ferrari is in a way better situation as MGP is.

I am a really big Schumacher fan. But you if you want to achieve something you have to invest in the whole crew. Also in the drivers. And Michaels reflexes are slowly dying.

In my honest opinion, maybe they should consider to replace both Michael and Nico.

[marcush.]

in reality they improve,no question.
But others just do better.In fact almost every other team has a better score in improving their car since season start.
the idea with DDrs is a neat one ,but it does not really help in the races .And if it does hinder your development of other bits -because it´s such a fickle system working only with certain parameters unaltered-the advantage turns into a disandvantage maybe..
But all is not lost .RedBull seem to be at a loss with their direction as well and Mclaren just recently found back on track..

[clipsy1H]

@lilschumi

First of all we have to cut all the BS like, the field is much tighter, the tyres are way softer and the drivers are much faster.

What happens behind the doors at MGP is always a question. But even that is no excuse. I can give you many examples. Ross Brawn, Jean Tod, Michael Schumacher, Chris Dyer and many more guys left Ferrari.
But Ferrari is in a way better situation as MGP is.

I am a really big Schumacher fan. But you if you want to achieve something you have to invest in the whole crew. Also in the drivers. And Michaels reflexes are slowly dying.

In my honest opinion, maybe they should consider to replace both Michael and Nico.

replace with who? there is nothing about reflexes, this year the car and tires make the difference. Michael and Nico have shown that if they have a competitive car and a little luck can win easily (China, Malaysia Monaco Valencia) If Michael has signed for another two years means that he believes in the team.

Last 5-8 pages are mostly filled with nonsense.... do you really think they don't want to win and fight for championship?
Early season brought a competitive car but focused too much on tire problem and neglected the rest. At this point the season is lost and if they continue to focus on developing this car next year and will make same mistakes.
The only chance for tomorrow is rain team ... If this occurs can reach the podium or top 5.

BTW this car is more competitive than the previous hope they can do same with 2013 car.

[marcush.]

Schumacher was good enough for setting a pole time in Monaco ..I cannot imagine he lost his reflexes in the summer break ..
You cannot drive at that level compensating any handicaps you might have .
Anyone who thinks Hulk ,di Resta or Sutil would have scored a single point more under the same circumstances is dreaming.
I agree on Rosberg who has not really made that step forward everyone predicted after china .I honestly think Schumacher is bringing more value to the team and I see him reeling in on him in points score till season end.

[zyphro]

I am a really big Schumacher fan. But you if you want to achieve something you have to invest in the whole crew. Also in the drivers. And Michaels reflexes are slowly dying.

You've lost your marbles mate; what evidence is there of this? If anything, his performance this year is his BEST YET. No? Doesn't that go in the exact opposite of your argument? You don't set a pole position time at Monaco if you've lost it. Not to mention out-doing his team-mate many times in qualifying (esp in the rain). When was the last time we saw things like this, since his return to Mercedes? We hadn't, till now.

[zyphro]

there is nothing about reflexes, this year the car and tires make the difference. Michael and Nico have shown that if they have a competitive car and a little luck can win easily (China, Malaysia Monaco Valencia) If Michael has signed for another two years means that he believes in the team.

Fact.

[mep]

Welcome back from the summer break.
Mercedes GP is still --- - some things never change.
Gearbox change on Rosbergs car and in general dog slow.
hahahaha.
Btw. This track should have suited the car.

[zyphro]

Btw. This track should have suited the car.

Nope, S2 is full of corners which murder the car. MSC was not optimistic going into the weekend.

[yener]

I am not saying that MS is not good enough anymore. But you cant rely on him for another lets say 3 years.
If MGP seriously want to win or have a chance on the WC they need to think on the long term. And having Michael in your team for another 3 years is a bit risky.

Anyone want proof? He is getting old, get over it! I'm not saying he isnt fast right now. And also you wont hear me saying he is doing the best job ever. What i can say is that he is in his best season since his comeback.

Personaly i would love to see him next year. But next year the situation at MGP will be similair to the last three seasons. So i don't want this hero to suffer more.

[Ganxxta]

Btw. This track should have suited the car.

Nope, S2 is full of corners which murder the car. MSC was not optimistic going into the weekend.

I wonder what track this car needs?
Even Monza has corners, how can a "Top" Team build a F1 car that isn't suitable for corners?

Lets see if tomorrow enough people crash out, so that they can get one point...

Its really sad

[mep]

I am not saying that MS is not good enough anymore. But you cant rely on him for another lets say 3 years.
If MGP seriously want to win or have a chance on the WC they need to think on the long term. And having Michael in your team for another 3 years is a bit risky.

Anyone want proof? He is getting old, get over it! I'm not saying he isnt fast right now. And also you wont hear me saying he is doing the best job ever. What i can say is that he is in his best season since his comeback.

I tell you one thing, he might be old but he has talent which makes him still better than all these pay drivers who fill half of the field.