Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

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sidmiester
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hamilton accuses a great mclaren team for not giving him a good car for 1-2 races.... mclaren is a damn good team ... nico is exactly opposite, patiently waiting just like button, for a good car for him to deliver.

i would say nico is better off partnering with button at mclaren!!

hamilton to mercedes...

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That could be very interesting; Nico and Jenson are very similar so to build a car which suits their driving styles would be quite easy and helpful. On the other hand, Lewis and Michael are more aggressive so Mercedes could design a car which could satisfy both drives.
I consider Nico a great driver but its true that if the car’s setup is not perfect he suffers more than Michael, Monza is great example of this.

Anyway it would be terrible if Michael decides to retire again, he is driving perfectly well and theoretically Mercedes will be much stronger next season. I don’t want see Michael retired and in 2013 Mercedes smashing the rest of the field, that would be absolutely unjust. :evil:

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the car has been absolutely terrible for nico and michael. if nico had good car he would be contender for championship.
You could say the same about almost any driver on the grid.

The best drivers dont need the best car to shine atleast some of the time and to me nico has barely glowed never mind illuminated the team.

mark my words he is another trulli/fisichella/heiki

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I read somewhere that McLaren are offering Lewis only half of what Jenson gets. If it's true, that only means one thing: They don't want Lewis in the team anymore. No wonder Lewis wants to move.
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snoop1050 wrote:
the car has been absolutely terrible for nico and michael. if nico had good car he would be contender for championship.
You could say the same about almost any driver on the grid.

The best drivers dont need the best car to shine atleast some of the time and to me nico has barely glowed never mind illuminated the team.

mark my words he is another trulli/fisichella/heiki
no...

look at massa.

well mercedes atm is in no mans land... the car is not good compared to top 4 teams. when team were scoring just 1 points, nico hauled awful lot of points for team with 1st in china and 2nd in monaco, 5th in bahrain. he was one of the top scorer when car was competitive enough.

best drivers may not need best car but they still need competitive car enough to reach other top opponents. thats the case for ferrari, or was last year, but not for mercedes.

also, nico in first year at mercedes did awesome job with ridiculously poor car, and nearly leveling with massa who had more decent ferrari.

same can be said in second year.

we will see, time will tell whether he will be in the league of vettel alonso hamilton button webber, or he will be like the next trulii.

thing is he has convinced haug, brawn and they highly talk of him, also does montezemolo, franz tost once said if he were to choose top drivers, he said he choose alonso, vettel hamilton, and he named rosberg.

thats good enough for me, to know he is a damn good driver out there and he deserves a compettive car if not best car to challenge top teams.

mercedes like i said atm is in no mans land... that has been the case for past 3 years now, the car is incapable of reaching top teams yet rosberg has hauled very decent points for team, i am absolutely convinced by that.

guys like trulli, hetifield could never do what nico did, it would have been also difficult for guys like vettel alonso if they weere in place of rosberg.
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Shrieker wrote:I read somewhere that McLaren are offering Lewis only half of what Jenson gets. If it's true, that only means one thing: They don't want Lewis in the team anymore. No wonder Lewis wants to move.
really? thats impossible, hamilton is highest earner at mclaren .. why would they give him less salary, bonuses than button?? i find it impossible

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snoop1050 wrote:
schumacher on the other hand seems to be stepping up his game and during the wet qually sessions he has made nico look like a rookie and not a driver with many seasons of experience.
Indeed, infact I think the gap between he and Nico in the wet is far greater than any other driver pairing I think.

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Lets be realistic, without a half-decent competitive car, no driver will "shine". Maybe if you were to go back 10-15 years, where downforce wasn't as high.

Moving on; Michael is in Magny Cours

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Michael sees something of interest!

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zyphro wrote:Lets be realistic, without a half-decent competitive car, no driver will "shine". Maybe if you were to go back 10-15 years, where downforce wasn't as high.

Moving on; Michael is in Magny Cours
yea i agree thats why the gap between mercedes and ferrari has been too collosal to even compete. the car isnt decent. fact remains that both nico and schumi are top pair, and they need each other.

and i like that nico has been advocating his support for michael to stay. and this just shows good respect between them.

if mercedes have money to bring hamilton, they are better off putting that money into good use in development of car. as the result confirms problem is not drivers, its the car thats why even both drivers are finding to get consistent results
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personally i dont mind if nico and hamilton swap.... nico will get a podium winning car immediately if he is impatient with current team, while hamilton will potentially get a championship winning car next season.

but truth is that there is absolutely no necessity to change drivers lineup.

hamilton negotiation is a problem for mclaren because he has atm a great power to negotiate he is in greater position. im sure he will stay, but his management is stalling because they want mclaren to meet their demands.

i think the only team hamilton would swap for mclaren is either red bull or ferrari should alonso ever move elsewhere...

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just studying those pictures - look at that old school michael commitment - he can smell it coming - they would be fools to let that determined talent loose :)

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schumifan wrote:just studying those pictures - look at that old school michael commitment - he can smell it coming - they would be fools to let that determined talent loose :)
Indeed; his work ethic is unmatchable.

What's most compelling is, these are not the actions of a man that is thinking of retiring. He looks determined as ever, and he knows once he gets a competitive car, everything will fall into place (getting that first elusive win since his comeback).

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sidmiester wrote:fact remains that both nico and schumi are top pair, and they need each other.
Really?

I don't think Schumacher needs Rosberg one bit to be honest.