Sauber C32 Ferrari

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zonk wrote:...radiator. intercooler is used for cooling turbocharged air...
ok......

So let´s try again....are the radiators holes at an angle because of the pretty severe angle the air has to travel?
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Yes, common sens suggest that, to have less drag, so to keep the channels parallel to central axis of the vehicle and horizontal to the floor.

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ESPImperium wrote:What inspired the C32:

*images of crumpled Sauber*
Indeed crash inspired setup =D>
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ringo
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remember this car?

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It's not a dificult trick that sauber has played. Their radiator is obviously much smaller than normal. But also the area behind the radiator is smaller as well. What is in question is the ease of which the hot air leaving the radiator will leave the bodywork.
The back pressure behind the radiator is much higher than the R30 car.
The R30 could have had just as slim sidepods, but it need the added width for better flow.
Maybe sauber have found a way to have improved flow with the radiotr construction itself, maybe the found a compromise with heat rejection. Whattever the case it's well thought out, but is possible to copy.
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Ferrari also used this layout in the past(I believe they still do). Gary Anderson badged it as an "old packaging solution".

Most teams now run Radiators which are laid diagonal in side view.

I can remember seeing a pic from last year, the Rads in the C31 being much smaller than others, with the radiator being positioned mostly horizontal.
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ToPGaS wrote:Image

It looks like the flow might go length wise through the radiator at some point rather than width wise.
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ringo wrote:remember this car?

http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/79/55/26/unbena15.jpg

It's not a dificult trick that sauber has played. Their radiator is obviously much smaller than normal. But also the area behind the radiator is smaller as well. What is in question is the ease of which the hot air leaving the radiator will leave the bodywork.
The back pressure behind the radiator is much higher than the R30 car.
The R30 could have had just as slim sidepods, but it need the added width for better flow.
Maybe sauber have found a way to have improved flow with the radiotr construction itself, maybe the found a compromise with heat rejection. Whattever the case it's well thought out, but is possible to copy.
Little note, in the picture is Renault R29 2010 show car. R30 had different solutions than predecessor on the back- huge diffuser channels around ti gearbox.

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Trackside impressions by Gary Anderson, from the latest edition of Autosport:
Gary Anderson wrote:The Sauber didn’t look far away from the Lotus and the Force India in terms of driveability, but the rear end does have its moments. If the rear doesn’t misbehave, then the car has a bit of understeer. It’s either one or the other, which suggests the car has a rear-end issue that needs sorting.
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dren wrote:
ToPGaS wrote:Image

It looks like the flow might go length wise through the radiator at some point rather than width wise.
Check out the pressurised cannister!
It is not a simple cylinder but bent at both ends like a "C" to wrap around the radiator inlet duct. Very clever if you ask me.
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Yeah, that's an R29 showcar not an R30. I made that pic : P
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Blackout wrote:Yeah, that's an R29 showcar not an R30. I made that pic : P
Top view
Finally a proper top view!

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Is the convergence of the wheels real or is a cushion effect from the lens?

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Blackout wrote:Yeah, that's an R29 showcar not an R30. I made that pic : P
Top view
http://f1.f-e-n.net/images/f1/2013/2013 ... Top_02.jpg
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Artur Craft
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With that top view from the C32, we can compare it with another car. For instance, here's it against the F138:

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I only included the rear half because of the sidepod comparison which is what differs both cars significantly

Everybody already knows it, but this shot just blatant show how incredible C32 is :shock:
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I dont think its that impressive, they have a much more cluttered rear end for example, it´s just a different packaging philosophy. The ferrari sidepods are also undercut, which from above gives the false impression the overall dimension is much bigger, but it isnt. We have to wait and see how it works for them!