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Team co-owner Gerhard Berger has added fuel to speculation that Toro Rosso is considering replacing Scott Speed with Robert Doornbos for the 2007 season.

The fact that the Faenza based squad is among the very last to confirm its race lineup for next year has invigorated suggestions that energy drink Red Bull is keen to accommodate Dutchman Doornbos.

He was a test driver for the senior team this year, and was promoted to the race seat following Christian Klien's departure late in the season.

Doornbos has also received an offer to remain Red Bull Racing's test driver in 2007.

The gossip coincides with Toro Rosso's apparent discontent with the inconsistency of Californian rookie Speed, and Berger's rumoured interest in the sponsor dollars that 25-year-old Doornbos could bring in.

Former grand prix driver Berger said: "(Co-owner) Dietrich Mateschitz and I will discuss the driver question soon. When the time is right, a decision will be made."

Berger, 47, also revealed that next year's Ferrari powered 'STR2' will be up and running some time in February.

He told the Austrian agency 'APA' of his maiden season as a team owner: "To beat two teams was our goal, and we did that.

"The team ahead of us was Williams, and compared to us they are a giant.


This is about the 5 f1 website that I have seen with this....it looks like this rumour is gathering some steam
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I think its pretty stupid and ironic that Speed could be ousted because he has no sponsors. I mean surely, there must be at least one multi-national american corporation willing to invest in F1.
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Speed has been a decent driver, but he also has a roll to play in the press. If all of his comments and quotes are completely arrogant and insulting, then he's not very marketable. I personally think he's backfired on Red Bull, and made them look really fake...just pretending to have the performance is not good enough, you need results...he should've scored at least a point in his first year. liuzzi did.

another memorable scott speed quote:
If I find out that his [Liuzzi's] car is running cooler than mine. Heads are going to roll!
Like the engineers have complete control over the engine temp!

BTW, I'm all for an american in F1...there's plenty of good american talent that could take his place...but, oh, they're not as attractive or californian as Speed is...sponsors have really stupid criteria for a good driver.
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I highly doubt any american company want to invest in F1 because viewership in North America is really low for the sport... plus the time difference of watching the sport. Also none of the major networks shows the event live.
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Liuzzi's car was comparatively better last year than this year.

I'm sure he said that just because he's that comfortable w/ the team and vice versa... Red Bull is supposed to be a young "upstart" team compared to all the other teams.
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Well if red bull really wants an american, a better choice could be Marco Andretti could be a nice choice :lol: :lol:
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So true paul... Marco would be the better choice
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John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
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Another link to the past too. The most successful American in F1 was Mario in the Lotus (mid 80s) who I think is Marco's dad, although there are so many Andrettis I'm not entirely sure.
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Marco is son of Michael, who is son of Mario. Considering Michael's F1 career, I can't imagine daddy being enthusiastic about Marco doing F1.
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Nov.8 (GMM) Gerhard Berger has moved to cool speculation that Toro Rosso is on the verge of axing American racer Scott Speed after only a single season in F1. The Faenza based team's co-owner responded cagily to reports that Dutchman Robert Doornbos could be accommodated alongside Vitantonio Liuzzi in 2007, but indicated that the gossip might be wide of the mark. "The driver question will be answered officially only after Didi (Dietrich Mateschitz) and I discuss it, but there will not be any great surprises," Berger, 47, was quoted as saying by the Austrian newspaper 'Salzburger Nachrichten'. Former grand prix winner Berger hinted several times towards the end of last season that Toro Rosso would be almost certainly stick with Speed and Liuzzi, and now adds: "I only want to say this -- Robert Doornbos is not playing a role in our deliberations." He also rejected suggestions that the Italian squad could be attracted by drivers with personal sponsorship dollars.
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Michael's career in f1 was his fault.. he never took it seriously as he did in Indy back in the day
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John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
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if you watch 'the team: a season with mclaren' it shows some incredible footage of testing with michael andretti vs. mika hakkinen...this is when mika is a rookie and michael already has established his race seat....mika just blows the pants off of michael...i think when he saw how good mika was, he just gave up...for some reason, michael didn't want to give it his best...i'm sure he could've been better, but he really let it go and jumped ship. i'm sure his dad 'mario' was a bit disappointed.
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Also he never lived in Europe.. he was always flying back and forth between North America and the next grand prix
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
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I never bought into the US sports networks propaganda about Michael, saw him for the person he was. Michael was respectably quick, but always tried to bully other drivers withhis aggression. Guys like him are why the rules mandated a blunt leading edge of the front wing fence, he used it to cut many tires during his CART days. His aggression didn't work in F1, and he was involved in some nasty crashes. Having Senna as his teammate probably made his problems worse. He never gave full comittment, and definitely has never been humble or respectful of other drivers. Sometimes arrogance has it's price.
David Coulthard had just started his F1 career in 1993 as a tester for Renault,and would have had a front row seat to this arrogant yank. Maybe this may be one factor in his attitude towards Scott Speed.
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ALL F1 drivers are arrogant. Besides that, who says you have to score a point in your first F1 season. Liuzzi didn't. Adding to that, Liuzzi has much more experience than him as well, that surely has alot to do with it. He also has not caused any big wrecks like Yamamoto did either. He's done a damn fine job as a rookie. I think you guys are putting too much pressure on the guy, it's only his first season.

Look how long it took Button to win his first race. Nobody here I'm sure wanted to axe him. I know they are two different people that act different, but you can't hold him to standards you don't hold everyone to. Sure he speaks his mind, but can you fault him for that. Besides, in Australia Liuzzi crashed 19 laps before the finish of the race and the stewards should have levied the penalty then, not after the race. If they knew he passed under yellow like Daivd cried about, penalize him then. So I could care less what Coulthard said and Speeds reaction. They should have given him a pass through of the pits for that infraction, not an asinine penalty after the race. Another thing is it shows you what kind of person Coulthard is, I like the guy mind you, if he holds what attitude Mario may have had, against Scott just because he's American.
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