2013 Monaco Grand Prix

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boyracer94
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zeph wrote:I think Chilton should be penalized for his bout with Maldonado.

And how did the RBR's jump Hamilton under SC1?!?
I'd also like to know this

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boyracer94 wrote:
zeph wrote:I think Chilton should be penalized for his bout with Maldonado.

And how did the RBR's jump Hamilton under SC1?!?
I'd also like to know this
The SC let the cars trough at a given point, the Mercs prob didn't expect this and so Hamilton was passed.
I also don't get the point of letting cars trough racing full speed towards a dangerous location.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1CGb39Rlpg

Looking at this RAI was already turning left before PER had his nose next to Raikkonen. Clearly it was Perez's fault.

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A masterful display from Rosberg. The safety car timing was unfortunate for Hamilton. Mercedes deserved a double points finish as the development push sets in.
Button sure loves to put pressure on his team mates but is always easy pickings for everyone else (Perez and Sutil). He got a good result in the end thanks to the narcoleptic Alonso. Perez showed why the folks at Ferrari didn't think he was ready. It was an interesting race.

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Vettel did really fast lap towards the end 1.16.57sec. Where did that come from?

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CHT wrote:Vettel did really fast lap towards the end 1.16.57sec. Where did that come from?
It came from actually driving the car, as opposed to reading the newspaper as you casually lap behind another car.

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Perez came in too hot. He basically kamikaze into Raikkonen.

Even if Raikkonen was not there, Perez would have brake too late and had to cut the chicane.
That's why Raikkonen thought it was safe to turn in.

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Mui wrote:
AlpineF1 wrote:Interesting Ferrari claim a piece of debris was caught in Alonsos front wing yet most of the moves on him were at the slowest corner? Surely aerodynamic grip doesn't have any effect at 30-40 mph.
you think any of them would've come close if he didn't have a problem

Yes! He was caught napping both overtakes.
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Perez and kimi battle has fault of Perez written all over it . I agree :D

IMHO its time Grosjean bid adieu to F1 heck even Petrov was better than him and more consistent. Again the drivers to watch out for (from junior racing) in Monaco didn't finish in point in all the 3 year they have been in F1 (MAL and PER) :mrgreen: .

Big applause to Sutil to pull a fast one on BUT and ALO. =D>

One of the better races wrt 2012 and 2010. Though I would want to know more about how MERC could use 2013 car for secret test because I though you could only test cars 2 years older ie W02 :?:

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well, a couple of questions after today's GP come to mind...

1) what happened to Massa , again, the exact same spot and problem?
2) how did the red bulls get past hamilton? they were running faster than they should for sure!
- this is probably a thing we will never find out and something that will never be investigated...
3) perez-alonso situation...
- is there an agreement between drivers to leave enough space in the corner for the second car, or do we have an article about it in the sporting regulations?
- alonso had three options: 1) slow down almost to a stop and let him past (which he didn't do, probably no one on the grid would do that). 2) force his way on the track and collide and 3) skip the corner and be safe... he did the no. 3 and got a penalty... do you guys think it was a fair penalty or not? or that he should have done the no. 1?

4) perez-kimi situation...
- kimi did nothing wrong in my book, and all the points from above apply here...

for me, the tires again played a significant role in the race, hamilton got screwed, alonso had some problems for sure, his lack of speed is very strange. monaco should be thrown out of the calendar, today was not entertaining at all... :)
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GrizzleBoy wrote:
CHT wrote:Vettel did really fast lap towards the end 1.16.57sec. Where did that come from?
It came from actually driving the car, as opposed to reading the newspaper as you casually lap behind another car.
It came from driving the car at proper race speed, as opposed to driving to preserve tires.

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The best you'll get at Monaco: not the most exciting race concerning overall action, but it got made up by loads of crashes.

I think the perez-raikkonen moment is just a racing incident; Perez shouldn't have went for the tiny hole, and Raikkonen should have left a bit more space. I think Perez would have overshot the apex and thus would have been easy prey for a repas. Unofrtunaly I think it all went just a bit too fast to react on the situation, so... racing incident.
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Maxion wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1CGb39Rlpg

Looking at this RAI was already turning left before PER had his nose next to Raikkonen. Clearly it was Perez's fault.
If you look at it frame by frame, you see Raikkonen increased his rate of turn when Perez came aside him.
Raikkonen should know better.

Perez didn't always drive clean, but this isn't his mistake imo.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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zeph wrote:I think Chilton should be penalized for his bout with Maldonado.

And how did the RBR's jump Hamilton under SC1?!?
My guess is this:
Let's say SC lap delta is 2 minutes. RBR pit just before it, Mercedes pit during it, it all balances out.
But Hamilton had to follow Rosberg AND lose 5 more seconds so he could come to the pitstop just as Rosberg was leaving. So he did a 2.05 lap. The 4cars were 1 second apart before SC, so that put Hamilton 3 seconds behind Webber (from 2 seconds ahead).
That's my explanation for it because Mercedes didn't protest any RBR speeding violation. I'm not saying they shouldn't be investigated, quite the contrary.

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Miserable race for Ferrari and lotus. Alonso too greedy during restarts. Great race for Mercedes and Redbull.

Great moves by perez but he shouldn't have tried that on kimi. His attempts before the incident proved that he wasn't going to be able to stop and kimi paid the price, he provided good entertainment but he should get a penalty for the next race.

Solid performance by force india. Awesome seeing sutil overtaking button and Alonso.

Chilton up to 14th will help marussia in the standings.

Bianchi and Grosjean #-o