Nico Rosberg has led the Monaco Grand Prix from start to finish to take a perfect win at the most prestigious race of the season. The Red Bull drivers complete the podium after an eventful race that saw many drivers eliminated.
I think it'll get to the wmsc, in which case a fine and provisional ban seems the more logical case.beelsebob wrote:There's certainly nothing in the regs to say what should happen at this point. I suspect it'll all come down to whether the FIA explicitly authorised testing with this year's car. If they did, nothing will come of it. If they did not, or Mercedes can not prove they did, I would expect Merc to get DSQ from the WCC.
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I'm still in a very serious and bad mood after the race and Kimi's result.Not really. The stewards believe it is a contravention otherwise they would have said no it isn't, but there are too many politics involved for them to give a damn.Overdriving wrote:It must be pretty serious, then.
I disagree. The FIA may have broken it's own rules in saying so - in which case this will take a couple (or more) lawyers to sort out.beelsebob wrote:There's certainly nothing in the regs to say what should happen at this point. I suspect it'll all come down to whether the FIA explicitly authorised testing with this year's car. If they did, nothing will come of it. If they did not, or Mercedes can not prove they did, I would expect Merc to get DSQ from the WCC.
Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.andartop wrote:This is so much bulls&*t I can't believe it. Had it been Ferrari in Mercedes' position everyone would be calling for them to be banned from F1 forever.I don't care what Pirelli's contract says, the teams are obliged to obey the rule of no in-season testing with the current car and drivers.
Regarding the Kimi-Perez incident I take my hat off to Kimi. Just wish Alonso had the balls to do the same thing earlier. It's nothing to do with fair racing, it was only the configuration of this specific track that allowed Perez to pull these moves. Just braking a little later and leaving the other driver no choice but to crash or go off track is not overtaking, it's just bullying. Especially since you get punished either way. I'm sure next time Perez is racing Kimi in Monaco he will remember this.
What a load of total and utter nonsense.beelsebob wrote:Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
Every Pirelli test up until now has been done with an outdated car. The fact that Merc did this with the current car means it's an open and shut case, Or it should be.Maxion wrote:IF the FIA allowed testing with this years car they would have to explain why, as then every other team could go and test for 1 000 KMs.
Yep, Kimi could also have gone straight in the chicane and given room to Perez. Doesn't mean he has too.beelsebob wrote: Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
Actually, according to the regulations...Maxion wrote:Yep, Kimi could also have gone straight in the chicane and given room to Perez. Doesn't mean he has too.beelsebob wrote: Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
According to the regulations he doesn't have to give room to someone coming up behind, he is allowed one defensive move which he took.
The regulations very much do ban what Kimi did.16.1 "Incident" means any occurrence or series of occurrences involving one or more drivers, or any action by any driver, which is reported to the stewards by the race director (or noted by the stewards and subsequently investigated) which :
d) Caused a collision.
e) Forced a driver off the track.
f) Illegitimately prevented a legitimate overtaking manoeuvre by a driver.
g) Illegitimately impeded another driver during overtaking.
Sorry, but the way Perez was "overtaking" people into that corner I don't see what reason Kimi had to just let him past. For Perez it was a win - win situation, either the other guy lets him past or they both miss the chicane, in which case they both keep position. I don't see the logic in that, and I can't call this fair overtaking.beelsebob wrote: Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
I'm with you on that one munu. Kimi himself said in the post race interview that Checo was basicaly relying on the drivers he was trying to pass, to notice the stupidity he was trying and avoid the crash.munudeges wrote:What a load of total and utter nonsense.beelsebob wrote:Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
He didn't have to "just let him past", what he did have to do though was leave enough space for Perez to be along side once he was along side, and not cause a collision by ramming Perez into the wall.andartop wrote:Sorry, but the way Perez was "overtaking" people into that corner I don't see what reason Kimi had to just let him past.beelsebob wrote: Sorry, but Kimi had plenty of other choices. Kimi turned into the corner early, with no reason to do so other than to ram Checo into the wall. I'm surprised Kimi wasn't penalised.
Or to quote Alonso's paraphrasing:20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.
For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a ‘significant portion’.
You have to leave a gap... All the time, you have to leave a gap!
