Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
User avatar
ringo
240
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Until they deliver equal pitstop times, they need to keep their grubby hands off fixing the race result.
I'm starting to feel that Lewis should be back at McLaren come 2016. Whitmarsh was the only issue there, at least the drivers raced to win at all times.
For Sure!!

User avatar
dans79
267
Joined: 03 Mar 2013, 19:33
Location: USA

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

iotar__ wrote:Complaining about it is really is turning into biggest one sided non-story like Monaco 2007 ;-). Not yet but close.
FYI A lot of people don't agree with you!
202 105 104 9 9 7

User avatar
SectorOne
166
Joined: 26 May 2013, 09:51

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

... But as Ringo mentioned, to me Mclaren felt more "open" in terms of letting drivers race then Mercedes.
They have way to much control over the racing but i hope that changes when they get the WCC.
Last edited by Steven on 28 Jul 2014, 13:12, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed personal comments
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"

User avatar
SectorOne
166
Joined: 26 May 2013, 09:51

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Rosberg helmet for Germany!

Image
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"

User avatar
Pierce89
60
Joined: 21 Oct 2009, 18:38

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

dans79 wrote:
iotar__ wrote:Complaining about it is really is turning into biggest one sided non-story like Monaco 2007 ;-). Not yet but close.
FYI A lot of people don't agree with you!
As goofy as Iotar is, I have to agree about Hamilton fans constant whining. I've never seen anything resembling favortism of any driver at Merc. I'm a Ferrari fan, so I have no dog in the fight, but I've been unimpressed by some of Hamilton's comments but, I think he has the edge in raw pace over 1 bonzai lap. In race trim, though, I've seen nothing to seperate them.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
559
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

basti313 wrote: Isn't it the other way round? Isn't Hamilton profiting from Rosberg's data at the moment?

From GB:
Peter Bonnington to Lewis Hamilton in lap 6: OK Lewis, gap now 5.4. Loss to Nico, braking, turn six [Brooklands].

Peter Bonnington to Lewis Hamilton in lap 9: So Nico braking later, turn 15. And half tenth faster, sector one. Gap at 5.5. You are in your Safety Car window.

From Austria:
Peter Bonnington to Lewis Hamilton: OK so in terms of aero balance Nico is half a turn more forwards on aero balance. But he is two front bars stiffer. So more forward on mechanical, more understeer mechanically, but he has half a turn more aero balance. He is reporting car is quite oversteery at the moment. That’s where he’s at.

Peter Bonnington to Lewis Hamilton in lap 50: You are both in the same position so it will need management. So losing a little bit of time in turn six and eight. Just have a think about your diff high speed.

Peter Bonnington to Lewis Hamilton in lap 53: So just losing out six and seven. Gap is at 1.6. And brakes are good. So apex speed five and six, just Nico carrying a little more.
That is not setup data. That is just driving methods.
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
559
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Pierce89 wrote:
dans79 wrote:
iotar__ wrote:Complaining about it is really is turning into biggest one sided non-story like Monaco 2007 ;-). Not yet but close.
FYI A lot of people don't agree with you!
As goofy as Iotar is, I have to agree about Hamilton fans constant whining. I've never seen anything resembling favortism of any driver at Merc. I'm a Ferrari fan, so I have no dog in the fight, but I've been unimpressed by some of Hamilton's comments but, I think he has the edge in raw pace over 1 bonzai lap. In race trim, though, I've seen nothing to seperate them.
IMO, Not enough trouble free races to see how the drivers compare in absolute pace. In Qualy HAM has made too many mistakes, especially while being ahead. In race, so far Rosberg has never caught and beat Hamilton on equal grounds. With that said I am giving it five more races before I come to my conclusions on raw pace in Q and Race.
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

User avatar
Shakeman
33
Joined: 21 Mar 2011, 13:31
Location: UK

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Rosberg radio message: "Driving advice?"

His engineer gave him advice you'd probably expect him to work out himself, effectivly, have a better exit!

astracrazy
astracrazy
31
Joined: 04 Mar 2009, 16:04

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Shakeman wrote:Rosberg radio message: "Driving advice?"

His engineer gave him advice you'd probably expect him to work out himself, effectivly, have a better exit!
a lot of drivers do this to be fair, Massa does this a hell of a lot

User avatar
Juzh
161
Joined: 06 Oct 2012, 08:45

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Shakeman wrote:Rosberg radio message: "Driving advice?"

His engineer gave him advice you'd probably expect him to work out himself, effectivly, have a better exit!
You're getting paranoid.

Sevach
Sevach
1089
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

SectorOne wrote:Iotar is a troll that writes so much that it actually hurts your brain trying to piece together what he´s actually trying to say.

But as Ringo mentioned, to me Mclaren felt more "open" in terms of letting drivers race then Mercedes.
They have way to much control over the racing but i hope that changes when they get the WCC.
Look at i this way Mclaren was never in a situation where they would finish 1-2 by default and all they needed to do was not screw it up.
Usually there were multiple cars between Button and Hamilton, so the calls were more based on who is around them then in what Lewis/Jenson is doing.

When Alonso/Hamilton where challenging just each other for the win Mclaren was very strict on their tactics.

User avatar
MercedesAMGSpy
0
Joined: 18 Apr 2014, 17:39

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Lewis and Nico not showing their hand all the time during FP, it's so obvious :mrgreen: . Merc won't be happy, but they have to accept it.

User avatar
dans79
267
Joined: 03 Mar 2013, 19:33
Location: USA

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

Nico seems a lot more worried about the loss of FRIC than Lewis.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/07/18/nico ... e-the-car/
202 105 104 9 9 7

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
559
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

dans79 wrote:Nico seems a lot more worried about the loss of FRIC than Lewis.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/07/18/nico ... e-the-car/
He's using Lewis' data so he should be fine :wink:
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

User avatar
MercedesAMGSpy
0
Joined: 18 Apr 2014, 17:39

Re: Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

Post

dans79 wrote:Nico seems a lot more worried about the loss of FRIC than Lewis.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/07/18/nico ... e-the-car/
I remembered that Lewis wasn't happy with FRIC in 2013.