Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2014

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He was so fixated on Mag, that he completely missed Jev setting up for an overtake during exit. If he had conceded the mag pass, he could have closed the door on Jev.
For some reason he kept out breaking himself into turn 1 during the first half of the race. He did it 2 or 3 times.
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dans79 wrote:
He was so fixated on Mag, that he completely missed Jev setting up for an overtake during exit. If he had conceded the mag pass, he could have closed the door on Jev.
For some reason he kept out breaking himself into turn 1 during the first half of the race. He did it 2 or 3 times.
I missed the first part of the race.... but just seen those clips etc.

How could Rosberg have the audacity to want to be let through by Hamilton... or even expect to win the race... when he had the best car on the grid and get completely out-raced by a Toro-Rosso. It's ridiculous. Driving like that, he does not deserve to be world champion.

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dans79 wrote: For some reason he kept out breaking himself into turn 1 during the first half of the race. He did it 2 or 3 times.
He was quoted as saying he couldn't get the brakes up to temp.
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iotar__ wrote:
"Mugged"? For the sake of neutrality: do you have a first lap spin or vs Ricciardo mistake?
Edit: Forget about it, it was probably Sky's coverage.

Here's Lewis' lockup in the first lap.

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Pierce89 wrote:
dans79 wrote: For some reason he kept out breaking himself into turn 1 during the first half of the race. He did it 2 or 3 times.
He was quoted as saying he couldn't get the brakes up to temp.
That doesn't jive with what he said in interviews.
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews ... 16181.html
Yes, it was an eventful race and I had my share of bad luck with the safety car coming out when I have just passed the pit lane entry, then the brakes started to overheat, so it was a case of accumulating problems.
so he couldn't get his breaks up to temp even though the cooling ducts where taped off, and then after he pits and they take the tape off they overheat?
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So apparently the reliability on the Mercedes is genuinely on the knife egde all the time.
"It was nerve-wracking," he said of the race (Toto Wolff), as viewed from the pit-wall. "With each car, there was a point when we didn't think they could finish. For Nico, it was behind the first Safety Car when it looked like the brake system had failed.

With Lewis, it happened when he started losing fuel pressure - and power - as he was running behind Fernando, with Nico closing in. At that point of the race, we were hoping he could make it to the finish - but we certainly expected the problem would be terminal."
http://www.pitpass.com/52212/Hungary-by-the-Wolff

So Rosberg was on the verge of having a massive shunt if the brake system had failed during a braking zone and Hamilton yet again was this close <--> to having another DNF.
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SectorOne wrote:So apparently the reliability on the Mercedes is genuinely on the knife egde all the time.
"It was nerve-wracking," he said of the race (Toto Wolff), as viewed from the pit-wall. "With each car, there was a point when we didn't think they could finish. For Nico, it was behind the first Safety Car when it looked like the brake system had failed.

With Lewis, it happened when he started losing fuel pressure - and power - as he was running behind Fernando, with Nico closing in. At that point of the race, we were hoping he could make it to the finish - but we certainly expected the problem would be terminal."
http://www.pitpass.com/52212/Hungary-by-the-Wolff

So Rosberg was on the verge of having a massive shunt if the brake system had failed during a braking zone and Hamilton yet again was this close <--> to having another DNF.
I guess that blows away whoever it was claiming Nico didn't really LOOK like he had brake issues. Some the garbage people write....
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Yes. It also states why Alonso was able to defend his position from Lewis.

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Pierce89 wrote: I guess that blows away whoever it was claiming Nico didn't really LOOK like he had brake issues. Some the garbage people write....
You can call it whenever you want, but some stuff doesn't jive!
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Pierce89 wrote:
SectorOne wrote:So apparently the reliability on the Mercedes is genuinely on the knife egde all the time.
"It was nerve-wracking," he said of the race (Toto Wolff), as viewed from the pit-wall. "With each car, there was a point when we didn't think they could finish. For Nico, it was behind the first Safety Car when it looked like the brake system had failed.

With Lewis, it happened when he started losing fuel pressure - and power - as he was running behind Fernando, with Nico closing in. At that point of the race, we were hoping he could make it to the finish - but we certainly expected the problem would be terminal."
http://www.pitpass.com/52212/Hungary-by-the-Wolff

So Rosberg was on the verge of having a massive shunt if the brake system had failed during a braking zone and Hamilton yet again was this close <--> to having another DNF.
I guess that blows away whoever it was claiming Nico didn't really LOOK like he had brake issues. Some the garbage people write....
Both driver's had those issues because it is designed into the car. Lewis had it on the first lap when he locked the fronts (no rear brakes), and Nico had it on the saftey car lap. According to Mercedes the BBWire goes into a zero mode when the brake temperatures are below a certain threshold. I don't know why toto said it was a failure. All Rosberg had to do was move his brake bias to the rear and heat up his brakes. Both drivers failed to do it at first only that it was on different stages of the race. Rosberg's driver error IMO.
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Toto's biggest mistake is that he is creating or forcing equal outcomes instead of creating equal opportunity for both drivers. This eventually leads to one driver feeling like he is being held back or not supported by the team.

Mercedes wants driver x and driver y to reach point A at the same time by, giving different and unequal strategies, to do battle for the win. However they are not giving equal strategy to maximize the potential of the drivers.

They are too obsessed with leveling outcomes and not equal opportunity. It can come back to haunt them, as i feel redbull and williams will be getting more wins this year.
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ringo wrote:Toto's biggest mistake is that he is creating or forcing equal outcomes instead of creating equal opportunity for both drivers. This eventually leads to one driver feeling like he is being held back or not supported by the team.

Mercedes wants driver x and driver y to reach point A at the same time by, giving different and unequal strategies, to do battle for the win. However they are not giving equal strategy to maximize the potential of the drivers.

They are too obsessed with leveling outcomes and not equal opportunity. It can come back to haunt them, as i feel redbull and williams will be getting more wins this year.
I don't see that being the case at all.

Toto cannot force equal outcomes if he tried, as both cannot finish first. What is the issue is competitiveness.
Rosberg has done a magnificent job thus far of leading the WDC, when any sensible betting man would've had Hamilton.
Hamilton's efforts have been curtailed by misfortune, although Rosberg has suffered some to Hamilton's benefit.

What is happening in my view, is transparency to the drivers. They can and are being allowed to race, which is markedly different from what we have seen WCC teams do in recent years.
Problems will arise from having 2 driver's in the team fighting for a title. You cannot cover every eventuality for the drivers to be appeased by the team's decisions.
One guy is going to be happy, and the other is gonna be unhappy.

Put it this way, will Hamilton be happy to be outscored by his team-mate? No.
Will Rosberg be happy to be beaten(generally) by Hamilton when all things are "equal"(reliability issues)? No.

Managing this situation perfectly is impossible without 1 driver losing face.

And should they lose a couple races due to this duel, then at least some semblance of competition is made possible by virtue of the team allowing these guys to race.

OR...they could always do it the Red Bull way.

I know which I prefer.
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I didn't know where to put this piece of news. It is somehow F1-related.

Mercedes adds F1 personnel to its DTM outfit
Autosport wrote:Mercedes' DTM programme has been given a significant staffing boost with the signing of Michael Wilson from the brand's Formula 1 outfit.

Wilson, who has been working for Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains in Brixworth, has made the switch to the DTM programme, where he will take on the role of head of race operations.

According to Mercedes DTM boss Wolfgang Schattling, signing Wilson is a significant step in the technical restructuring that has been ongoing since Gerhard Ungar departed the team back in May.

"His role means he's responsible for the engineering and the technical side once we are at the tracks," said Schattling.

"This is part of our restructuring process, one of the key personnel.

"He started to work with us on the first of August, so he is very new."

Wilson is Mercedes' second high-profile technical staff signing, with its F1 team's technical director Bob Bell joining the DTM programme during the last round in Moscow in what the manufacturer describes as an "advisory role" with an uncertain future.

"He gives us some hints on what we can improve," said Schattling.

"He's had a close look at the structure in Affalterbach (HWA's base), he's had a close look at the processes from a Formula 1 viewpoint, so he's given us some good impulses.

"But how it will work out, we will see. His contract with the Formula 1 team ends at the end of the year, so it's really not sure if he will continue in one or the other or if he will quit."

Schattling did, however, confirm that Mercedes will make more technical staff signings as the year progresses.

"We are discussing this, we are looking for new people. But who, or when or what, we can't say. But definitely something will develop, personnel-wise, and structure-wise."
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http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/08/06/ ... -mercedes/

Small, but a nice interview of Aldo Costa. The man clearly seems to still harness the pain of getting fired from Ferrari. One's loss is One's gain. He is happy at Merc and I am sure Merc is happy with him too.

If I have to read his statement about Alonso, he clearly seems to be very unhappy with how Alonso has interacted with engineers of Aldo's team and Aldo himself. It was a very strong statement here from Aldo in regards to having Alonso at Merc, "...I don’t think we will see him at Mercedes. ...". In a way, it is like, "I would leave if he comes". :roll:

Although the most perfect driver on the grid, Alonso clearly lacks the leadership skills that Michael possessed, which was probably one of Michael's greatest strengths to gain so much of success.

Aldo also highlights, what has been a common discussion on Ferrari Team thread that, politics is bad decision making is killing Ferrari. Asked what he thinks Ferrari’s main problems are, Costa replied: “It is not absolute — it is my opinion. But very serious mistakes were made in the strategic vision.

“An example: in 2008, we in the racing team thought it essential to have a new wind tunnel to remain competitive. We were told there was no need.

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prince wrote:It was a very strong statement here from Aldo in regards to having Alonso at Merc, "...I don’t think we will see him at Mercedes. ...". In a way, it is like, "I would leave if he comes". :roll:
1. Strong as hell, there's nothing strong about it except for strongly selective quoting. Can you explain how can you translate, in a way or not, not expecting Alonso at Merc in 2015 into "I would leave if he comes" with rolling eyes, how?! Omitted part was Hamilton is staying.
2. Second and final bit about Merc in Turrini's blog Costa interview you remarkably managed to omit: he's more worried about RB than Ferrari for 2015.
3. Where the hell are bulk downvoting mental cases, ran out of votes on 2+2=4 in silly season or what?