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Merely two days before the start of winter testing at Jerez, Scuderia Ferrari has unveiled its new car online, displaying a clear evolution of its predecessor while featuring a long and pointy nose.
Ferrari already use a split turbo.mika vs michael wrote:Is it true that the engine layout won't change much and the Mercedes solution regarding split turbo won't be adopted?
It is a bitch load of work to change their engine layout come to think of it. They caannn do it, but it is gonna be one big shot in the dark if it is going to perform better with minimal analysis. There is a short time to get the engine finished before testing and to get it up and running in time for the fly-aways. Why do I think they must release the engine so early if there is no mandated homologation date? Ferrari's best chance to win a race is in the first flyaway races so they would have rushed to get through their 32 tokens and then upgrade parts, and then on a non-token reliability basis upgrade through the season.mika vs michael wrote:Is it true that the engine layout won't change much and the Mercedes solution regarding split turbo won't be adopted?
it's Ferrari. So you can believe whatever they said except"we will build a good car" or "we will be able to win at the very beginning"skoop wrote:they want to grab 2-3 wins this year, so can't think that their car is too bad. it has to be second or third quickest car on the grid to grab a couple of wins, don't you think? makes me wonder if they're maybe sandbagging
Is that because of Arrivabene and Marlboro?CBeck113 wrote:Since the car's livery is usually mirrored in the uniforms & team clothing, I guess we can expect more white and less black this year:
http://store.ferrari.com/de_de/scuderia ... plica.html
If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.PlatinumZealot wrote:It is a bitch load of work to change their engine layout come to think of it. They caannn do it, but it is gonna be one big shot in the dark if it is going to perform better with minimal analysis. There is a short time to get the engine finished before testing and to get it up and running in time for the fly-aways. Why do I think they must release the engine so early if there is no mandated homologation date? Ferrari's best chance to win a race is in the first flyaway races so they would have rushed to get through their 32 tokens and then upgrade parts, and then on a non-token reliability basis upgrade through the season.mika vs michael wrote:Is it true that the engine layout won't change much and the Mercedes solution regarding split turbo won't be adopted?
(a) the next 3 years will be transitionaltaperoo2k wrote:If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.PlatinumZealot wrote:It is a bitch load of work to change their engine layout come to think of it. They caannn do it, but it is gonna be one big shot in the dark if it is going to perform better with minimal analysis. There is a short time to get the engine finished before testing and to get it up and running in time for the fly-aways. Why do I think they must release the engine so early if there is no mandated homologation date? Ferrari's best chance to win a race is in the first flyaway races so they would have rushed to get through their 32 tokens and then upgrade parts, and then on a non-token reliability basis upgrade through the season.mika vs michael wrote:Is it true that the engine layout won't change much and the Mercedes solution regarding split turbo won't be adopted?
Allison is the one who mentioned the PU loophole, thus being responsible for the in season development allowed in 2015. The team has said they're not expecting to be super competitive at the start of the season but that around the summer break time they should start to come on strong and make a large jump in competitiveness. The delay in their expected competitiveness is obviously the lead time of the PU upgrades their making and should be introduced around the summer break time. Hopefully they make some improvements to the PU for sure, but they were only down 10 horsepower to the Mercedes PU in 2014. Hopefully they make a lot of progress to their ERS which was obviously a huge factor in the poor pace of the F14T.taperoo2k wrote: If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.
Hmm..Only 10hp less?? Are you sure? :/Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Allison is the one who mentioned the PU loophole, thus being responsible for the in season development allowed in 2015. The team has said they're not expecting to be super competitive at the start of the season but that around the summer break time they should start to come on strong and make a large jump in competitiveness. The delay in their expected competitiveness is obviously the lead time of the PU upgrades their making and should be introduced around the summer break time. Hopefully they make some improvements to the PU for sure, but they were only down 10 horsepower to the Mercedes PU in 2014. Hopefully they make a lot of progress to their ERS which was obviously a huge factor in the poor pace of the F14T.taperoo2k wrote: If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.
If I understand, Crucial_Xtreme talks about ICE only. It seems relevant to me (I'm not engineer, I just followed the F14T thread).charlex wrote:Hmm..Only 10hp less?? Are you sure? :/Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Allison is the one who mentioned the PU loophole, thus being responsible for the in season development allowed in 2015. The team has said they're not expecting to be super competitive at the start of the season but that around the summer break time they should start to come on strong and make a large jump in competitiveness. The delay in their expected competitiveness is obviously the lead time of the PU upgrades their making and should be introduced around the summer break time. Hopefully they make some improvements to the PU for sure, but they were only down 10 horsepower to the Mercedes PU in 2014. Hopefully they make a lot of progress to their ERS which was obviously a huge factor in the poor pace of the F14T.taperoo2k wrote: If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.
