4 cylinders?

pRo · Post 28 Jun 2007, 13:16

enkidu wrote:400 BHP?? LOL There's no way they will be that low!! My Vauxhall Astra Z20LET engine produces 290BHP on stock internals!!

They will be a hell of a lot higher than 400 lol Remembering these engines will run massive massive boost and will rev to the end of the earth.

I'm quite looking forward to it, finally technology that WILL be used in road cars again!! Come on its so rare unless your rich to have an engine in your motor over 2.0L 4 pot....

Did you read the full story?

Yeah, they could easily make +1000hp. And then run out of fuel after third of the race and watch the cars with lower power finish.

Ogami musashi · Post 28 Jun 2007, 13:49

I think definitively, people should read the Pdf aviable as they gives a lot of details and you could also see that FIA opens debates on many themes by telling pros and cons of their proposals.

Please read them you'll have clearer picture of the proposals.

tomislavp4 · Post 28 Jun 2007, 14:45

I´m movin to another appartment today and I´m not going to have internet there untill the next month

So could someone post an adress where I can find the pdf files? pls i´m in a hurry, i´can´t search now

Ogami musashi · Post 28 Jun 2007, 15:01

http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/ ... _2011.html

Happy reading, if any question on the aeros please do not hesitate (maybe in another thread because we're in the engine forum).

Carlos · Post 28 Jun 2007, 15:16

Just an engineering idea. Consider a turbo charger with regulated boost. Now add a regenerative energy system; electrical or hydraulic - couple it to the turbo charger to aid the boost. We have push to pass satisfying 2011. Any F1 teams,company or individual that uses this idea - please send me a checque and one of equal amount to my favourite F1 Forum - F1T

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tomislavp4 · Post 28 Jun 2007, 15:50

Thanks, Ogami musashi

Carlos, you forgot to say how many "zeros" should the checque have, this is quite important don´t you think

Carlos · Post 28 Jun 2007, 16:59

Tomislavp4 - Thanks for the advice, fair market value, do we have any lawyers that are members of the Forum, happy to share the wealth.

bhall · Post 28 Jun 2007, 17:04

In reading through the FIA proposals, one thing keeps striking me: F1 can either be more environmentally friendly or it can be more cost effective; it cannot be both, as is the stated goal of the proposals.

jddh1 · Post 29 Jun 2007, 17:19

Environmentally friendly would be cool I think. I'd love to see what those engineers come up with. They then could secure some sponsorship money from companies that actually provide env-friendly services and/or products.

Jagboy · Post 29 Jun 2007, 18:16

Why, though. F1 is intrinsically about as far as you can get from environmentally friendly. Sure there's a ton of money and R&D could have some fun with it, but there are other series for that type of research.

JB

dp35 · Post 29 Jun 2007, 21:02

Although it would be nice if F1 could become the enviromental leader and remain the pinnacle of motorsports, I'm not sure if that's possible.

I'd like to see the FIA invent another high level Formula that's focused on efficiency. The rules would be simple, with the most important one being the specified amount and type of fuel allowed to finish the race. Once the cars start going too fast, reduce the amount of fuel allowed.

F1 Observer · Post 30 Jun 2007, 01:33

History is indeed cyclical...Now, back to in-line turbos!

I've read somewhere that no RPM or boost limits will be imposed, which leads me to conclude that those engines will produce a lot more than 400 horsepower.

About standard equipment supplied to the teams...By no means this is a guarantee of more excitement or more overtaking...Quite the contrary actually.

The 80's were extremely competitive and we had V8, V10 and V12 engines in one season,with huge horsepower differences between them and lots of excitement,overtaking,and races decided on the last lap...When was the last time it happened with V10s or V8 imposed?!

Tom · Post 30 Jun 2007, 01:49

Barcelona 2001

Saribro · Post 30 Jun 2007, 03:27

F1 Observer wrote:I've read somewhere that no RPM or boost limits will be imposed, which leads me to conclude that those engines will produce a lot more than 400 horsepower.

That's on the table as a proposal yes, however, what's also proposed is a maximum fuel flow. Performance would still be limited, though not by imposing engine-design/running limits as we are used to, but by only having a limited amount of energy available (in the form of fuel flow) for extraction by the engine.

It's a pretty interesting set of proposals, especially in combination with the chassis-ideas. Mind you, it'd be a pretty radical change to the entire entity that is the F1 car.

enkidu · Post 30 Jun 2007, 08:55

So, could a company like Honda go for a N/A very very high reving engine and bmw go for old school big boost turbo engine? I tell you what if this happens F1 will be very exciting again.