Ferrari SF15-T Pre-Launch Speculation Thread

[zioture]

It does not seem to 2012 or 2013, the shape of the air is more 'square and also the air intake is different.

[Manoah2u]

ah you're right, i didn't notice it was positioned that much higher. interesting.

that final pic indeed shows the difference much better

[TechF1]

https://twitter.com/Graftechweb/status/ ... 1039108096
Maybe new cockpit 2015 ?

A better view:

Anyway new cockpit, logical choice to move the air intake higher cause Vettel is taller than Fernando

[PlatinumZealot]

What? Horner from Red Bull said that. But Taffin from Renault said 75hp is not reasonnable, 40hp would be more realistic.

Lotus said switch to merc gives them 85 bhp and 18kg less. Looks like everyone is just covering their asses, blaming each other. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Where did you find that information?

[zioture]

here other interesting frames

[Juzh]

What? Horner from Red Bull said that. But Taffin from Renault said 75hp is not reasonnable, 40hp would be more realistic.

Lotus said switch to merc gives them 85 bhp and 18kg less. Looks like everyone is just covering their asses, blaming each other. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Where did you find that information?

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ilmor ... at-horner/
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[hondaballs]

Man I have alot to learn.

[Blackout]

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Is it me or the mysterious GUT intercooler seems to be taller? it seems it has 5 horizontal lines while the 2014 one has 4
Maybe the shape is different too. The 2014 one is rhomboid-shaped while the GUT one looks more rectangular

[Blackout]

Maybe Ferrari used two different intercoolers in 2014, a rhomboid one and a more rectangular one...
Rhom:
http://cagp.auctionhq.net/images/lot/1081/108197_0.jpg
Rect:
http://cagp.auctionhq.net/images/lot/1081/108192_0.jpg
Or is it just the different view angle...
I dont know...

[zioture]

here other interesting frames
https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 0763_o.jpg
https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... e=556A8622
https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 1659_o.jpg
https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 8019_o.jpg

Is it me or the mysterious GUT intercooler seems to be taller? it seems it has 5 horizontal lines while the 2014 one has 4
Maybe the shape is different too. The 2014 one is rhomboid-shaped while the GUT one looks more rectangular
http://www.servimg.com/view/14795526/1700

I think you're right

[PlatinumZealot]

Lotus said switch to merc gives them 85 bhp and 18kg less. Looks like everyone is just covering their asses, blaming each other. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.


http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ilmor ... at-horner/
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Sorry man. The journos got you again. No quote just a mention of some "team engineer"

[Juzh]

I could say the same for you. sorry man, renault has got you again with their empty promises of uber performing engine.
original article was from amus where it was said this engineer is in fact alan permane.

[Juzh]

Was discussed already in the engine thread if im not mistaken.

[Manoah2u]

Assuming RedBull got the 'best' Renault engine, and Mercedes AMG has the 'best' Merc engine, and Ferrari has the 'best' Ferrari engine, and the rest are handed 'more or less' b-spec versions;

i'm wondering though; knowing Lotus was very late with testing, and also had huge problems with the disaster that was the Renault V6T launch engine; could they've 'downgraded' their engine in order to keep it from overheating and breaking down? at the cost of power?

I'm still having a hard time of a 85 power defecit, just as i have a hard time about 75 power defecit; the 40 hp difference between the best Renault engine and the best Mercedes engine sounds more plausible.

However, assuming there indeed is a 'substancial' difference between 'works' engine and 'client' engines, then that power figure indeed may be bigger when you'd compare for example the AMG Merc works engine to the Lotus Renault client engine - which, in turn, might even have been downgraded to deal with the reliability issues.

just a though excersize here.

[Blackout]

I could say the same for you. sorry man, renault has got you again with their empty promises of uber performing engine.
original article was from amus where it was said this engineer is in fact alan permane.

This is a bit OT but let's sum up:
-Taffin in a very measured manner and with some arguments says 40ps is more plausible.
-Scarbs says 50ps approximatively
-Horner and Markko who have been often caught red-handed exagerating things about the engine in the past, often gave different numbers, from 80 to 60hp...
-85hp might be the difference between the 2015 Merc and the 2014 Renault. why not? and in which conditions do we got that difference?

IMO you're the only person who sees ''empty promises and an'' ''uber performing'' engine in Renault's communication... I read French and German (maybe better than english) and I never saw such BS in their interviews. I often see the contrary