2015 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

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A very boring championship like the 2011's.

Next year we r gonna have a quadruple, a triple, a double and couple of single world champions. Hopefully also a better championship.

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PIRELLI had issued their recommendations and had highlighted it would be a matter of safety if anyone tries to under pressure the tyres. If the breach has happened, Stewards should act on it appropriately. Mercedes is claiming that the pressures were correct as they were set in the presence of the PIRELLI engineer, which could be the only line of defence for Mercedes.

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Just_a_fan wrote:Hamilton and Vettel were outspoken about the tyres last week. Perhaps they're going to be taught to be good boys and keep their mouths shut...

Massa to win Monza? :shock:

Wasn't it Rosberg and Vettel who were very Vocal 2weeks ago?
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Hamilton has also been vocal about the tyres. So was Alonso I think, but he seldom finishes a race at the moment.
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Oh i must have missed that, what was Lewis saying ?
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He claimed the new tyre pressure and camber recommendations from Pirelli post-Spa was a disaster. Rather ironic, eh?
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GPR-A wrote:PIRELLI had issued their recommendations and had highlighted it would be a matter of safety if anyone tries to under pressure the tyres. If the breach has happened, Stewards should act on it appropriately. Mercedes is claiming that the pressures were correct as they were set in the presence of the PIRELLI engineer, which could be the only line of defence for Mercedes.
The entire thing is a joke. The minimum tire pressures are supposedly all about safety, yet an FIA official knowingly let an unsafe car race. I have a gut feeling this is more about Bernie & the FIA, trying to smack the teams around for complaining publicly about Pirelli's crap tires.
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GPR-A wrote:PIRELLI had issued their recommendations and had highlighted it would be a matter of safety if anyone tries to under pressure the tyres. If the breach has happened, Stewards should act on it appropriately. Mercedes is claiming that the pressures were correct as they were set in the presence of the PIRELLI engineer, which could be the only line of defence for Mercedes.
That is the only defense that Mercedes has other than the actual instrument used is out of calibration.
Be sure that if the measurement is correct then the instrument will be checked.

This could take days or weeks to sort out if it goes to Court.
All seems rather pathetic.
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dans79 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:PIRELLI had issued their recommendations and had highlighted it would be a matter of safety if anyone tries to under pressure the tyres. If the breach has happened, Stewards should act on it appropriately. Mercedes is claiming that the pressures were correct as they were set in the presence of the PIRELLI engineer, which could be the only line of defence for Mercedes.
The entire thing is a joke. The minimum tire pressures are supposedly all about safety, yet an FIA official knowingly let an unsafe car race. I have a gut feeling this is more about Bernie & the FIA, trying to smack the teams around for complaining publicly about Pirelli's crap tires.
Time that Bernie got the bullet. He needs to retire. Greedy doesnt come on scale, megalomanic does.
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Curious to know how a .3 PSI difference on ONE tire is an advantage. Curious to know if it's approved by Pirelli when it's being filled and it's lower when it gets to the grid how there's anything anyone can do about it. Curious to know how they know an issue exisist yet allow just about the entirety of a race to go on before a descision is made to notify Mercedes that they're under investigation.

It's not like the race stewards haven't been paid off to give Ferrari a win before, this attempt is just... more brazen. Let's hope this doesn't have to be settled in the courts three months from now.
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J0rd4n wrote:
PlatinumZealot wrote:Some "triple crown" pistons are in the works I hear... Each additional crown should give 20 more kWhrs worth of charge per lap... Not bad for a little old six pot eh?
Ooh, what's your source for this?
It's a silly joke... :wink:
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jknights wrote:.
The sport needs to have a better set of administrators with no personal financial interests.
Agreed. Sadly, every sport appears to run by people who gain financially these days.
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Frankly, yes, the fact that they were allowed to run the entire race with an "unsafe" car, rather than being black flagged to bring the car in (and hence preserve the safety of the driver of that car, and others/marshals on the track) says that no one at the FIA believed this actually was a safety issue.

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I'm just confused now, no idea how mercedes allowed this to happen, no idea why pirelli didn't check all cars or why they let them race if the pressures were dangerous. Its just a big mess.

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matt_b wrote:I'm just confused now, no idea how mercedes allowed this to happen, no idea why pirelli didn't check all cars or why they let them race if the pressures were dangerous. Its just a big mess.
Mercedes allowed it to happen because they measured the pressure in front of a Pirelli staff member, as being high enough to comply.