2015 Mexican Grand Prix - Mexico City, Oct 30 - Nov 1

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Henne
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toraabe wrote:The Mercedes duo has for the first time this year been granted to go flat out the whole race, since they now have won both titles. So thet have nothing to loose and they want to put out a good show.
So actually we for the first time will be able to fully see the full potential of the W06 in race trim.
I think that they in most races have been running at 90 % exept in Monza.
90% ? How about Singapore? I guess they needed 150% then? :)

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Very funny: :lol:

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PlatinumZealot wrote:Very funny: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9fU0V499w
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toraabe wrote:I read it some days ago,, cannot find it now, but it was confirmed by Toto Wolf
hollowBallistix wrote:
toraabe wrote:The Mercedes duo has for the first time this year been granted to go flat out the whole race, since they now have won both titles. So thet have nothing to loose and they want to put out a good show.
So actually we for the first time will be able to fully see the full potential of the W06 in race trim.
I think that they in most races have been running at 90 % exept in Monza.
Source ?
Sure. And, in addition to Singapore, probably they were running at 90% in Malaysia when trailing; or rosberg was running at 90% in Hungary just to give the others a chance...

I think all teams operate within margins of safety in order to maximise reliability; if Mercedes have a healthy lead in the race, I'm sure they turn things down. But I also believe they push it to the maximum when needed - same with all teams - and that it happens all the time (e.g. In qualifying/at the start etc.)

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I think we need to quantify this a little bit more.

1) If I'm comfortably ahead i'd cruise at x%
2) if I'm behind and have no realistic chance to catch the guy ahead, and no chance of losing my place to the car behind, i'd cruise at x%
3) If I can't push the tires any harder, i'd cruise at x%
4) If I have to conserve fuel, i'd cruise at x%

In short, you really have no easy way of knowing if someone is/was/will cruise unless they tell you so.
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Not much heavy breaking.. Mclaren Honda even more minced.. Annihilation is the prediction.
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TAG wrote:I'm going to go out on what I think is a pretty stout limb and say we may see multiple cars running two laps down at the end of the race.
Certainly the usual slow teams will be even slower here.
I will add one thing the gaps between the different packs will be greater.

Due to the Altitude factor you can run a Monza type set up but you will pay for it in different sections of the track like perhaps having to slow down sooner at the end of a straight. Because of the air density .

The altitude changes things greatly. It won't cause too much trouble bit simply put. The gaps between drivers will be slightly more then we usually see. I think that's probably the only difference.
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My brother told me back in the 80's when they raced in Mexico, it was the fastest GP of the season. The altitude has less air, less oxygen which translates to less fuel being burned and less drag on aero. So we'll probably see higher speeds than Monza for example and less fuel usage at the same time. At some extent, we could see who has the best chassis of them all, since this race is less dependent on aerodynamic grip (since there is less air) and more on chassis and mechanical grip.

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In a Lewis Hamilton Video he has said "they will have Monaco downforce setup but will have Monza downforce effect and speed"
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Tommy Cookers wrote: just because they lost only a tiny bit of power in Brazil - this doesn't mean they will be the same in Mexico ?

to maintain boost (correcting for the atmospheric pressure being only 76% of our notional normal value) ....
the turbo and mgu-h would have to be run much faster ? (than in Brazil)
(and if Brazil qually was relatively slow, this would imply an inherent rpm limit ?)
additionally to electrical and mechanical limits inherent in the current designs, remember the rules hard limit turbo rpm
and the engines were presumably designed around races including Brazil but not Mexico ?

at other races fuel limit often does't allow full power all race, here average race power will be affected less than qually power ?
and there might be interesting differences between the different engines ?
I find it ironical than some of the most knowledgeable members in F1T use so many question marks when most people tend to affirm all they say as if they know it all :mrgreen:

This came to my mind instantly:

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toraabe wrote:The Mercedes duo has for the first time this year been granted to go flat out the whole race, since they now have won both titles. So thet have nothing to loose and they want to put out a good show.
So actually we for the first time will be able to fully see the full potential of the W06 in race trim.
I think that they in most races have been running at 90 % exept in Monza.
I´d say just the opposite, since they won it all, now they can let the rest win something so Mercedes domination doesn´t seem so strong and the proposed rule changes lose some strenght, and they can continue their domination

IMHO it would be stupid to now show how strong they are when it´s being discussed if new engines are introduced

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Renault say power loss will be next to zero.

Newest weather report?

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i think they're allowed to fight each other with all the dirty tricks they've got in their sleeves. both of them still wont show the full potencial of the car, becouse they'll run at 80% or something (for example). it will get interesting as soon as someone starts to fight dirty and does a vettel :) (not meant as an Insult)

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People here seriously think that Mercedes will turn it down or, perhaps more correctly, not turn it up???

I presume those people have forgotten that their number two driver is number three in the standings...

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I don't think so. I think from now on it's focusing on 2016, but also making sure they still win the remaining races. Winter testing starts now for them. It's a bonus they have with Winter testing being so short.