ThumbsUp wrote:Max mentioned he watched some previous starts of several years and did the same as Alonso did a few years ago. Don't know which year it happened though. But it was a great move. It was his move to victory.Just_a_fan wrote:Max's overtake of the Ferrari in the first couple of corners (just before the unmentionable thing happened) was pretty special. On a track where overtaking is so difficult, that move actually gave him the win, in effect. Very mature move for one so young and reminiscent of a couple of the current top drivers in their early days in F1.
This...NL_Fer wrote:I can't remember Alonso doing that overtake, but i do remember Schumacher in the rain.
You are right. But the "big" thing he did was to keep his tires perfectly together. He had constant pace until each time he had to change the tires. Always only the last lap before the inlap dropped slightly in pace. So he really used everything of his tires. This is something really remarkable as he did not drive the car before.giantfan10 wrote: did he deserve the win?? yes... was it some oustanding drive worthy of all this overblown hype? nope
How that? 1-Stop? Ferrari never had the pace advantage to overtake Ves. Vet was far away from overtaking Ves in the second stint with 3laps tire advantage, 3more laps in the last stint would not have been enough.Vasconia wrote:I still think that Vettel should have won this race but Ferrari´s strategy was sh*t.
Well he did not make a single attempt in the second stint....so...you go for 3-Stop as you proved you can not overtake on track. Pretty much the same for Ric...he showed that he is slower on the prime than Ves who managed his tires perfectly....so he goes for 3-Stop.Vasconia wrote:Who knows, I know it wasnt easy but I can expect Vettel trying harder than Kimi, for sure.
I would not compare it to Abu Dhabi. Ric was simply too slow on the Medium. To fight Ferrari the only chance was to get him out of the way as the Ferraris could not overtake Ves in free air. Both RedBulls on 2-Stop would have ended up in Vet catching Ves because of dirty air of Ric and Ric because he was slow.Andres125sx wrote:Did they really split their strategies to fight Ferrari? Or did they do something similar to Abu Dabhi 10 when they used one of their cars to clear up the way to their favourite?
giantfan10 wrote:The Ferrari lost traction in the beginning of turn 3 allowing verstappen and sainz to get by.....thats all that happened .seems as if max sneezes then he has the best sneeze ever....
you can see the Ferrari losing traction in the video posted. there was nothing special or fantastic about it.
seems fashionable now to overhype everything about Verstappen.
as far as the race he did nothing special. red bull handed him the win when they tried a 3 stopper with Ricciardo that didnt work. its common knowledge that passing is next to impossible when you have 2 cars that are competitive in barcelona Maldonado one of the worst drivers in F1 won the Spanish GP with arguably the most complete driver in F1 unable to pass.
Max does get kudos from me for keeping his head down and not making any mistakes in his win with a faster car on his tail.
did he deserve the win?? yes... was it some oustanding drive worthy of all this overblown hype? nope
Perhaps my brain is playing with me, but I don remember Vettel being so closed for some many laps as Kimi was. Vettel is more agressive and I am quite sure that he could have tried to overtake Max. But its only my theory so it doesnt matter...basti313 wrote:Well he did not make a single attempt in the second stint....so...you go for 3-Stop as you proved you can not overtake on track. Pretty much the same for Ric...he showed that he is slower on the prime than Ves who managed his tires perfectly....so he goes for 3-Stop.Vasconia wrote:Who knows, I know it wasnt easy but I can expect Vettel trying harder than Kimi, for sure.
Do you mean having a Mercedes, dont you?hollus wrote:In all justice, overtaking was possible. Both attemps failed by the tiniest of margins. Ricciardo had a good look at Vettel equipped only with a tire advantage, while Raikkonen, with engine advantage, was this close to getting Max twice. If Ricciardo's move on Vettel had worked, he'd probably gone on to catch the leaders and, with his tire advantage, pass Raikkonen thanks to dirty air and then pass Max with DRS.
Raikkonen could not pass Max due to inferior downforce before the last corner and Ricciardo could not pass Vettel due to an inferior engine. With the right combo, passing was on, IMO.