2016 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, Thu 26 – Sun 29 May

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Why the hell did Mercedes not made the decision to ask Nico to move over quickly, when he was clearly struggling? He was almost 2 seconds slower than Ric and that should have immediately prompted them to jump in. By the time Lewis did moved up, it was almost too late, only for Red Bull to screw up. Toto said on Sky, both cars had problems with the breaks and Nico suffered more than Lewis.
Fabulous driving from Lewis to put pressure on Ric and then to force him to Pit and then to keep a great pace, holding Ric on new intermediates. He did 47 laps on those US and all the time, had the pace to stay ahead of Ric on SS!
Ric need not have to behave like a ginger by putting a behavior like that. It's not that he is in title hunt and feeling dejected. They are on the upward curve and he should concentrate on building great relationship with his team, so that it helps him for next year.

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justmoi wrote:
f1316 wrote:
wickedz50 wrote:
Did not Alonso say what Ferrari was capable when he left Ferrari...
Oh I think in the last few races you can see they have strong pace, it's a good race car and at both races they were on the pace right up until quali and then got slower - so it's not that the car is not fast, it's that they're having real trouble setting up the car to manage the tyres over a single lap.

I think they'll get that sooner rather than later and when they do we'll see it's fundamentally a good car.
Oh absolutely it's a really good car fundamentally. It will devastate most of the rest of the field with its speed. It's just not a championship car, or team, this year. Yet again
I guess that's sarcasm. But nonetheless it's true that they're not performing like a championship level team - they're unable to get the best from the package.

Nevertheless, I feel as if , despite the issues and despite red bull doing well again, they're in a stronger position with their package than last year. They just need to sort quali since they've been playing catch up each and every race day so far this year.

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Theoreticaly Alonso can still win championship.
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Great race, gutted for Ric. Most annoying: Bieber and Manors everywhere you looked!

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Lewis Hamilton wrote:The last time I started third here was in 2008 and I won that race.
He had a point saying this yesterday :lol:
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tonmeister wrote:Great race, gutted for Ric. Most annoying: Bieber and Manors everywhere you looked!
I thought at one point there were more Biebers than Manors.

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f1316 wrote:
justmoi wrote:
f1316 wrote:
Oh I think in the last few races you can see they have strong pace, it's a good race car and at both races they were on the pace right up until quali and then got slower - so it's not that the car is not fast, it's that they're having real trouble setting up the car to manage the tyres over a single lap.

I think they'll get that sooner rather than later and when they do we'll see it's fundamentally a good car.
Oh absolutely it's a really good car fundamentally. It will devastate most of the rest of the field with its speed. It's just not a championship car, or team, this year. Yet again
I guess that's sarcasm. But nonetheless it's true that they're not performing like a championship level team - they're unable to get the best from the package.

Nevertheless, I feel as if , despite the issues and despite red bull doing well again, they're in a stronger position with their package than last year. They just need to sort quali since they've been playing catch up each and every race day so far this year.
Wasn't even trying to be sarcastic, or offensive. Just the reality of their situation.

As for being in a stronger position with their package this year, i guess we could say the same for the top teams

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GPR-A wrote:Why the hell did Mercedes not made the decision to ask Nico to move over quickly, when he was clearly struggling? He was almost 2 seconds slower than Ric and that should have immediately prompted them to jump in. By the time Lewis did moved up, it was almost too late, only for Red Bull to screw up. Toto said on Sky, both cars had problems with the breaks and Nico suffered more than Lewis.
Fabulous driving from Lewis to put pressure on Ric and then to force him to Pit and then to keep a great pace, holding Ric on new intermediates. He did 47 laps on those US and all the time, had the pace to stay ahead of Ric on SS!
Ric need not have to behave like a ginger by putting a behavior like that. It's not that he is in title hunt and feeling dejected. They are on the upward curve and he should concentrate on building great relationship with his team, so that it helps him for next year.
Lewis should at least thank Rosberg on the podium. I doubt that Lewis would've done same while he's leading the champ. and BTW there arent any breaks on the car only BRAKES.

Nevertheless good run on ultra softs for lewis

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stuartpengs wrote:
tonmeister wrote:Great race, gutted for Ric. Most annoying: Bieber and Manors everywhere you looked!
I thought at one point there were more Biebers than Manors.
LOL, not hard to find those kind of Biebers in Monaco...

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GPR-A wrote:Why the hell did Mercedes not made the decision to ask Nico to move over quickly, when he was clearly struggling? He was almost 2 seconds slower than Ric and that should have immediately prompted them to jump in. By the time Lewis did moved up, it was almost too late, only for Red Bull to screw up. Toto said on Sky, both cars had problems with the breaks and Nico suffered more than Lewis.
Fabulous driving from Lewis to put pressure on Ric and then to force him to Pit and then to keep a great pace, holding Ric on new intermediates. He did 47 laps on those US and all the time, had the pace to stay ahead of Ric on SS!
Ric need not have to behave like a ginger by putting a behavior like that. It's not that he is in title hunt and feeling dejected. They are on the upward curve and he should concentrate on building great relationship with his team, so that it helps him for next year.
First of all, Hamilton would not have moved aside for Rosberg even if the team asked, so it was enough favour for Lewis that Rosberg moved aside because Hamilton was unable to pass that 'slow' Mercedes of Rosberg.

Second, Lewis did a great Race, but have to feel for Riccardo. It is easy to criticize him, but what Redbull did to him was the same as what Mercedes did to Lewis last year. Its okay that you like Lewis and you are happy for him, but saying that Riccardo is wrong, is not right IMO. We are not in his position so we should not be dictating how he should behave or not. And what does 'ginger' even mean?

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F1NAC wrote: Lewis should at least thank Rosberg on the podium. I doubt that Lewis would've done same while he's leading the champ. and BTW there arent any breaks on the car only BRAKES.

Nevertheless good run on ultra softs for lewis
When Lewis has been asked to get out of the way of Nico all he has insisted is that Nico at least makes an effort to get past and Lewis not have to slow down and lose time which is fair enough IMO.

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Shakeman wrote:
F1NAC wrote: Lewis should at least thank Rosberg on the podium. I doubt that Lewis would've done same while he's leading the champ. and BTW there arent any breaks on the car only BRAKES.

Nevertheless good run on ultra softs for lewis
When Lewis has been asked to get out of the way of Nico all he has insisted is that Nico at least makes an effort to get past and Lewis not have to slow down and lose time which is fair enough IMO.
Rosberg could easily have held Lewis behind had he not slowed down. So Rosberg slowed down and lost time, even if it was small amount. And try to give credit where it's due.

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GrayGreat wrote: Its okay that you like Lewis and you are happy for him, but saying that Riccardo is wrong, is not right IMO. We are not in his position so we should not be dictating how he should behave or not. And what does 'ginger' even mean?
Ric is one of the best drivers on the grid and I always cheer for him, just like I cheer for Lewis, Fernando, Vettel and Max. Like I said, it is a rebuilding time at Red Bull and if he wants to be a champion, it is important to ensure he takes this in his stride and moves on. He has been cribbing like a school boy since Spain and more such gingerly behavior will only drive him out of favor. Someone like Lewis, who has had notorious behavioral problems in the past, has gone through hell of a lot in 2014 and this year, but still puts up a brave face and doesn't blame his team. It is in Ric's interest to make sure he sort these things out and ensure he doesn't give stupid and frustrating statements.

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Seriously? More Rosberg and Hamilton talk? What are we doing here? Nothing happened, Hamilton won, Nico P7, who cares?

What we should care about is the absolute amateur hour at Red Bull absolutely gifting the race to Lewis. The fact that Damon Hill compared this win to Senna at Donington made me want to throw up. How a team wins 2 championships a season for 4 years and call the leader into the pits and not be ready is stupid. What's worse is if he was gone 1-2secomds faster he would've gotten ahead of Hamilton.

That was a joke, complete joke and Daniel had every right to call Red Bull out for that. No one can tell me that was being a sore loser, no, that was being a pissed off driver who had the team let him down once again.
Friendship with Honda ended, Renault is my new (and more reliable) friend.

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justmoi wrote: Wasn't even trying to be sarcastic, or offensive. Just the reality of their situation.

As for being in a stronger position with their package this year, i guess we could say the same for the top teams
I mean they're stronger relative to the pace; they got second in the race last year but we're still a fair amount off the pace. I think they're much closer this year - Q3 in both of the last races have seen them go backwards and I don't think is representative - so even if Red Bull have jumped ahead (and I don't think that'll be the case come Canada) it's still better to have a smaller gap to the leaders.