2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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diffuser wrote:
25 Aug 2017, 17:51
RedNEO wrote:
25 Aug 2017, 16:52
This is why I want McLaren out of this. People become content with mediocrity.

Well all know now for certain that McLaren isn't breaking from Honda. No matter how much you want the world to be flat, wishing it will not change it. It's round get over it and spare the rest of us.
https://t.co/2TBeLqO6QN?amp=1
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GoranF1 wrote:
25 Aug 2017, 19:36
diffuser wrote:
25 Aug 2017, 17:51
RedNEO wrote:
25 Aug 2017, 16:52
This is why I want McLaren out of this. People become content with mediocrity.

Well all know now for certain that McLaren isn't breaking from Honda. No matter how much you want the world to be flat, wishing it will not change it. It's round get over it and spare the rest of us.
https://t.co/2TBeLqO6QN?amp=1
So that basically backs up what I said. With the STR/Honda deal dead, there is no way FIA would allow Renault to give McLaren a PU.

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Zynerji
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McLaren made their bed, now the must lay in it through the long night.

I believe their best course is to simply wait out the dawn.

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Honda and Mclaren are married until 2021(unless Honda lets them get out of contract with no penalties).

McLaren can only get out by buying out Honda(will not happen.....too much cash needed and FIA will not allow it unless Honda has another team).
or
RB and McLaren switch(RB will not do that until 2019 or when PU performance is fixed).

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Sasha wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 08:10
Honda and Mclaren are married until 2021(unless Honda lets them get out of contract with no penalties).

McLaren can only get out by buying out Honda(will not happen.....too much cash needed and FIA will not allow it unless Honda has another team).
or
RB and McLaren switch(RB will not do that until 2019 or when PU performance is fixed).
Stop pretending you've seen the contract and don't be so naive to think there won't be stipulations about performance in it.

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RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:26
Sasha wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 08:10
Honda and Mclaren are married until 2021(unless Honda lets them get out of contract with no penalties).

McLaren can only get out by buying out Honda(will not happen.....too much cash needed and FIA will not allow it unless Honda has another team).
or
RB and McLaren switch(RB will not do that until 2019 or when PU performance is fixed).
Stop pretending you've seen the contract and don't be so naive to think there won't be stipulations about performance in it.
They'll be partnered next year. It was made certain when Toro Rosso talks collapsed. That interview Hasegawa even said it was discussions with no formal talk occurring. FIA want Honda in F1. If McLaren cancel the contract it will remove Honda. Doesn't take a genius to figure out unless there's a second team for Honda to supply, their future is pretty much already written.

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RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:57
GhostF1 wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:39
RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:26


Stop pretending you've seen the contract and don't be so naive to think there won't be stipulations about performance in it.
They'll be partnered next year. It was made certain when Toro Rosso talks collapsed. That interview Hasegawa even said it was discussions with no formal talk occurring. FIA want Honda in F1. If McLaren cancel the contract it will remove Honda. Doesn't take a genius to figure out unless there's a second team for Honda to supply, their future is pretty much already written.
You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.
I'll quote yourself to yourself. You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.You just aggressively impress your opinions as fact. Woeful forum attitude towards others.

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VAN downgraded to "Spec 3.5":
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13142 ... ty-for-spa

I guess we won't see spec 4 in Monza :(. Looks like it still needs some fixing before new solutions can be introduced.

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GhostF1 wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:07
RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:57
GhostF1 wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:39


They'll be partnered next year. It was made certain when Toro Rosso talks collapsed. That interview Hasegawa even said it was discussions with no formal talk occurring. FIA want Honda in F1. If McLaren cancel the contract it will remove Honda. Doesn't take a genius to figure out unless there's a second team for Honda to supply, their future is pretty much already written.
You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.
I'll quote yourself to yourself. You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.You just aggressively impress your opinions as fact. Woeful forum attitude towards others.
I'll quote yourself to yourself. You agressivelly impress your opinions as fact. Woeful forum atttitude towards others.

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Sayeman
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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:18
GhostF1 wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:07
RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 10:57


You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.
I'll quote yourself to yourself. You think you know exactly how this works but you don't.You just aggressively impress your opinions as fact. Woeful forum attitude towards others.
I'll quote yourself to yourself. You agressivelly impress your opinions as fact. Woeful forum atttitude towards others.
Have ur constant whining made any change to the engine situation? Honda says they ain't gonna let Mclaren go, and contracts can't be as easily broken as Mclaren or you are suggesting. So let's take a breather and give ur fellow forum users some respite.
Never Give up.

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Sayeman
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Soichiro wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:11
VAN downgraded to "Spec 3.5":
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13142 ... ty-for-spa

I guess we won't see spec 4 in Monza :(. Looks like it still needs some fixing before new solutions can be introduced.
Looks like they are piggybacking extra engines to avoid future penalties...like w have seen last year.
"Problem" is just an excuse.
Never Give up.

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Sayeman wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:30
Soichiro wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:11
VAN downgraded to "Spec 3.5":
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13142 ... ty-for-spa

I guess we won't see spec 4 in Monza :(. Looks like it still needs some fixing before new solutions can be introduced.
Looks like they are piggybacking extra engines to avoid future penalties...like w have seen last year.
"Problem" is just an excuse.
No, otherwise they would have stockpiled with a spec 3.6 not gone back to the spec 3.5 again

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Sayeman
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RedNEO wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:37
Sayeman wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:30
Soichiro wrote:
26 Aug 2017, 11:11
VAN downgraded to "Spec 3.5":
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13142 ... ty-for-spa

I guess we won't see spec 4 in Monza :(. Looks like it still needs some fixing before new solutions can be introduced.
Looks like they are piggybacking extra engines to avoid future penalties...like w have seen last year.
"Problem" is just an excuse.
No, otherwise they would have stockpiled with a spec 3.6 not gone back to the spec 3.5 again
Maybe they didnt have enough 3.6s ready
Never Give up.

maxxer
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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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only bmw could replace honda , but they became sick of f1 :)

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The team is practicing giving each other toes on the straight since the straight line speed is really bad. We are going to be sitting ducks if it doesn't rain.